B-Man Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 BAN ALL THE THINGS! Internal Biden admin memo shows it was serious about banning gas stoves before public uproar. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/internal-biden-admin-memo-shows-serious-banning-gas-stoves-public-uproar?intcmp=tw_pols 1 1
B-Man Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 The Truth About Biden's Would-Be Gas Stove Ban Comes Out Since the initial dust-up in early January, the Biden administration and its media allies have run a relentless campaign to pretend as if concerns over a federal gas stove ban were made up by Republicans. (See title thread and OP 😆) Unfortunately for them, the internet is forever, and commentary by administration officials, including CPSC head Alexander Hoehn-Saric, made it clear the idea was on the table. Democrat politicians also defended the possible move, claiming that gas stoves cause childhood asthma. For several days, you were treated as an idiot who wanted to harm kids if you didn’t think gas stoves should be banned. Even the late-night TV shows were talking about, and then suddenly, everything changed. The press started to put out stories asserting that Biden was never going to ban gas stoves and that it was simply a moral panic created by the right. That wasn’t true, but it served as a useful way to abscond from the fact that the administration had backtracked due to the backlash. Now, we are learning the truth about just how deep this push went and what the real motivation was. According to Fox News, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm secretly met with Jules Kortenhorst in mid-2021, the CEO of the company behind the study claiming gas stoves are a health hazard. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm met privately with the leader of the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI), the group that funded a recent study used to justify calls for a gas stove ban. Granholm met with Jules Kortenhorst — the CEO of RMI at the time — in June 2021, according to her internal agency calendar obtained by government watchdog group Americans for Public Trust (APT). Kortenhorst is widely known global climate activist who also founded the Energy Transitions Commission and chairs the World Economic Forum’s Global Future Council on Net Zero Transition… …”Despite calling stories about the Biden administration banning gas stoves ‘ridiculous’ and ‘not true,’ Secretary Granholm’s calendar tells a different story,” APT executive director Caitlin Sutherland told Fox News Digital. “We’ve now learned that she consulted with the dark money group pushing to ban gas stoves.” “Suffice it to say, ‘ridiculous’ and ‘not true’ proposals don’t ordinarily involve a meeting with the Secretary of Energy — and where there’s smoke, there’s fire,” Sutherland added. “Americans everywhere must demand Granholm and green energy extremists stay out of their kitchens.” If an administration wasn’t seriously entertaining banning gas stoves, its top energy official wouldn’t have been having an hour-long meeting with the CEO of a dark money group pushing to ban them. Obviously, the idea to do so reached the highest levels, and it appears Granholm was looking for a scientific hook to justify taking action. Further, if you look at her rhetoric after the meeting, it’s obvious she agreed with Kortenhorst, and she’s still repeating his talking points to this day even while continuing to dismiss the assertion that the administration ever wanted to ban gas stoves. What I find most interesting from this revelation, though, is what it says about the real motivation of those involved. Granholm is a climate change cultist, believing that the United States needs to completely end any use of fossil fuels. RMI’s CEO, Kortenhorst, is also a radical activist who uses his position and company to push for the total end of fossil fuels. More at the link: https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/02/10/the-truth-about-bidens-would-be-gas-stove-ban-comes-out-n701517 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-energy-secretary-met-china-connected-group-funded-study-used-justify-gas-stove-ban?intcmp=tw_fnc https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2023/02/03/biden-officials-just-cant-keep-their-hands-off-your-gas-stoves/?sh=8d42d37af2f1 . 1
B-Man Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 Sure is a funny thread title, good old Tibs sure showed us. New York Times says quitting gas stoves makes sense for the environment and your health https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/02/11/new-york-times-says-quitting-gas-stoves-makes-sense-for-the-environment-and-your-health/
ALF Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 This phase out of fossil fuels nonsense will result in getting republicans elected. They can do what is realistic not the impossible. 1
B-Man Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 Hey ! The OP's take on this was wrong. What a surprise. Yes, it’s real: Joe Biden’s Department of Energy just moved to ban nearly all gas stoves. For the record, gas stoves don’t hurt asthmatics anymore than any cooking does. The studies commissioned to prove this had to wrap the house in Saran wrap to show any rise in anything detrimental. And while on that, as an asthmatic, this is rich coming from the people who told us our disability wasn’t a thing and we had to wear the mask, or be locked in our houses. These are my middle fingers. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/faith-freedom-self-reliance/biden-regulatory-move-to-ban-gas-stoves . 1 1
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2023 Author Posted March 19, 2023 I saw an old women arrested and a gas stove ripped out of her hands, it was shocking! The police wore green uniforms 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 10:29 PM, BillsFanNC said: A gas stove is someone's way of life? F'n incels. Get out a bit. 4
T master Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 5:13 PM, Tiberius said: I totally agree with Blackburn besides it just continues to show that those claiming that they will agree with this stupidity do little to no research ! Natural gas is one of the most efficient it is some 98% efficient & propane even more if it was bad they wouldn't be allowed to use it on toe motors inside of buildings where people work . The problem with our gov't is that they are highly educated people that turned in their common sense when they got their degree & they are now the same parents that teach their children that the highest form of discipline is to take one of their entitlements away such as a favorite toy while allowing them the rest of their toy box to play with . It's just amazing to me after 61 years how i can't make common sense decisions for myself and need a wing nut to decide what is best for me & mine !! Not to mention fire has been used since pretty much the beginning of time but all of the sudden it's the boogie man . Go figure . 1
Precision Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: A gas stove is someone's way of life? F'n incels. Get out a bit. Preparing food is a way of life. Homes built prior to 1950 had only 30 Amp service at 120V. Most stoves are wired to a dedicated 240V 50 Amp breaker. There is no way any of these older homes can accommodate an electric stove. Even homes built up to the late 60's with 60 Amp service will struggle running an electric stove in conjunction with A/C, refrigerator, TV, dryer, computer, etc. 1 2
B-Man Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Precision said: Preparing food is a way of life. Homes built prior to 1950 had only 30 Amp service at 120V. Most stoves are wired to a dedicated 240V 50 Amp breaker. There is no way any of these older homes can accommodate an electric stove. Even homes built up to the late 60's with 60 Amp service will struggle running an electric stove in conjunction with A/C, refrigerator, TV, dryer, computer, etc. Very true. Not only that but the power grid in many places is strained already, So let's add millions more consumers without adding to the infrastructure. 3
Precision Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Very true. Not only that but the power grid in many places is strained already, So let's add millions more consumers without adding to the infrastructure. It's really surprising how many dwellings have 30 Amp service especially among cottages and camps. For sure there are large areas in WNY where the grid could not support a rapid changeover. 2
Doc Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Very true. Not only that but the power grid in many places is strained already, So let's add millions more consumers without adding to the infrastructure. That's the MO of this stupid, incompetent and corrupt Admin. 2
Doc Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Another "made up controversy" or "solution in search of a problem" that was a lie. 2
ALF Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) A shocking video shows a row of electric F-150s bursting into flames after EV batteries overheated and caught on fire. First responders sound alarm over EV batteries after electric F-150s burst into flames: 'Totally different' https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/first-responders-ev-batteries-electric-f150s-catch-fire I can just imagine the high insurance cost when most become electric Edited April 26, 2023 by ALF 2
Precision Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, ALF said: A shocking video shows a row of electric F-150s bursting into flames after EV batteries overheated and caught on fire. First responders sound alarm over EV batteries after electric F-150s burst into flames: 'Totally different' https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/first-responders-ev-batteries-electric-f150s-catch-fire I can just imagine the high insurance cost when most become electric EV's in minor accidents are being totaled by insurance companies. The insurers can't take the chance that a damaged battery will fail catastrophically and cause injury. Insurance premiums for EV's are set to rise because of this. Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car 2
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