Pro Football Reference's Approximate Value Rankings now up-Josh Allen again first (tied with Hurts)

[dave mcbride]

Their AV measure is essentially their NFL equivalent for WAR (MLB; wins above replacement) and VORP (NBA; value over replacement player).

 

Here are the leaders: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/leaders.htm.

 

Hurts really had a great year too; such a great runner (13 rushing TDs, passer rating of 101.5). I never expected it of him, and kudos to him for proving me wrong.

 

Allen was first overall last year (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/leaders.htm) and 3rd in 2020 (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/leaders.htm).

Edited January 13, 2023 by dave mcbride

[Don Otreply]

I thought PFR was Pork Fried Rice, 

[Big C]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Their AV measure is essentially their NFL equivalent for WAR (MLB; wins above replacement) and VORP (NBA; value over replacement player).

 

Here are the leaders: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/leaders.htm.

 

Hurts really had a great year too; such a great runner (13 rushing TDs, passer rating of 101.5). I never expected it of him, and kudos to him for proving me wrong.

 

Allen was first overall last year (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/leaders.htm) and 3rd in 2020 (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/leaders.htm).

 

I like this stat and have referenced it often over the years. Even if you don’t think running QB play is sustainable, you know it makes a huge difference in the game. That’s why you see Allen and Hurts up top and even Fields in the top 8. I do think Fields was put in a catastrophic situation in Chicago and has carried the offense on his back. 
 

Regarding Hurts, I always saw him similar to Allen in that he had the physical tools (though not as elite as Josh) and he had the right attitude and if he put in the work and the staff built around him he could be great. He is a hard worker and a locker room leader. Happy to see him blossoming in year two. 

[jletha]

2 hours ago, Big C said:

 

I like this stat and have referenced it often over the years. Even if you don’t think running QB play is sustainable, you know it makes a huge difference in the game. That’s why you see Allen and Hurts up top and even Fields in the top 8. I do think Fields was put in a catastrophic situation in Chicago and has carried the offense on his back. 
 

Regarding Hurts, I always saw him similar to Allen in that he had the physical tools (though not as elite as Josh) and he had the right attitude and if he put in the work and the staff built around him he could be great. He is a hard worker and a locker room leader. Happy to see him blossoming in year two. 

I like EPA/play because it is agnostic of how you move the ball, just that it gets moved.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

I LOVE AV because from a historical perspective you can see by position and school how college football has also changed. If you get the chance, view NFL players by the college they attended and their AVs. It's fascinating!