The Wall of Fame - been a while...

[cwater10]

12 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

As much as I love guys like Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams, they were never all-pro types and only have a single playoff appearance between them.  Not WOF worthy

I agree completely on Fred.  Great guy, important player for the team, but not Wall of Fame worthy.  However, I think Kyle definitely deserves to be on the wall.  From his Wikipedia page:  

 

"At the time of his retirement, Williams ranked fifth in Bills history in tackles and sacks (first overall in sacks among defensive tackles), and made six Pro Bowls. He was described by the Associated Press as "the heart and soul" of the Bills during his time there."

 

That qualifies in my book.

[MJS]

- Butch Byrd (interceptions leader, 5 pro bowls, 3 all-pros)

- Kyle Williams (6 pro bowls)

- Rueben Brown (8 pro bowls)

- Fred Smerlas (5 pro bowls, 1 all-pro)

[Mark92]

Kyle Williams all day long.  I have signed Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed Footballs but my most prized Bills memorabilia possession is a game issued autographed Kyle Williams Jersey.  That man embodies everything it means to be a Buffalo Bill.  Get him on the wall.  

[Ned Flanders]

15 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

He's third in team history in rushing yards with 5,646, behind Thurman (11,938) and OJ (10,183) and fifth in rushing touchdowns with 30, behind Cookie (31), Josh (38), OJ (57) and Thurman (65). Given how people loved him and how much he loved the team, I think he's a good candidate for the wall. 

More than loving the team, he loved the community.  "Jackson spends much of his time participating in community service, and is an advocate for the Food Bank of WNY. The NFL running back is also a spokesman for the United Way, the Billieve campaign for breast-cancer awareness and NFL Play 60 for youth exercise."

https://nfl-pe.azurewebsites.net/prep/articles/buffalo-bills-fred-jackson-honored-by-the-jefferson-awards-foundation/

 

Also a multiple Buffalo Bills Man of the Year award recipient: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/fred-jackson-named-2014-bills-walter-payton-man-of-the-year-14548128

[May Day 10]

I think Kyle Williams and probably Ruben Brown.  I get the case for Schoebel. 

 

I would like to see Kyle soon, so he can be honored in front of active players who were once his teammates.  

 

 

Gotta save room and keep the bar high for this current generation.  We have Allen, Diggs, Dawkins, Hyde?, Poyer?, Milano? Knox?  McDermott, Tre? and hopefully another decade of contributors.

[BigDingus]

Ruben Brown wasn't really Super Bowl era, but he definitely deserves the WoF honors.

 

I'd personally like to see Eric Moulds, and Kyle Williams definitely deserves it. Wish Freddy had the numbers, as he's the kind of guy the entire fanbase loved.

 

 

[Billzgobowlin]

Generally my thought is these recognitions come in years that you want to get the fans excited.  Look at the Steelers with Franco this year for example.  Hopefully we don't have anyone on the wall for a while for that reason

[oldmanfan]

Byrd, Brown, Williams

[Cash]

2 hours ago, cwater10 said:

I agree completely on Fred.  Great guy, important player for the team, but not Wall of Fame worthy.  However, I think Kyle definitely deserves to be on the wall.  From his Wikipedia page:  

 

"At the time of his retirement, Williams ranked fifth in Bills history in tackles and sacks (first overall in sacks among defensive tackles), and made six Pro Bowls. He was described by the Associated Press as "the heart and soul" of the Bills during his time there."

 

That qualifies in my book.

Agreed. Love Freddie, but I’m not sure if he’s quite at the level of WoF. Kyle Williams deserves it though. 
 

Also agreed with the other posters on Schobel. Dude was real good for an extended time, and would’ve been a big star if his teams were at all relevant. 

[Lofton80]

I put Ruben Brown, Byrd and Schobel

[BullBuchanan]

20 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I have been beating the Schobel drum for years and will continue to.

 

• Nine seasons with the Bills ... the only team he played for.
• In eight of those seasons, he played all 16 games.
• Second most sacks in Bills history (78).

 

I think he has earned his spot.

 

those sacks were all in garbage time.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

those sacks were all in garbage time.

 

Of course they were.

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

those sacks were all in garbage time.

...another term for The Drought

[The Jokeman]

22 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him:
2015 Lou Saban
2017 Cookie Gilchrist

 

Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era?
Cornelius Bennett?
James Lofton?
Ruben Brown?
Eric Moulds?

 

Is any player from the drought era worthy?
Kyle Williams?
Fred Jackson?
Brian Moorman?
Aaron Schobel?
Eric Wood?

Brown, Kyle and Schobel would be the ones I'd vote to go up based on longevity with us/performance. 

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

those sacks were all in garbage time.

Unlike Bruce whom I sure never benefitted getting sacks when our offense had us up 21 points early/late in games?

[BBills_88]

The City of Buffalo 

[RoyBatty is alive]

22 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Butch Byrd

Absolutely.

 

Robert James was a very good Bills CB but Byrd was much better and deserves the recognition.

[BigDingus]

5 hours ago, Lofton80 said:

I put Ruben Brown, Byrd and Schobel

 

I like Byrd, but I dunno... He had some great numbers while here (still remember 9 INT's his rookie season), but is 5 years enough time?

 

Schobel was pretty good, played all 9 seasons with the Bills, but not sure his achievements stand out enough. 2x Pro Bowler, 1x Second-Team All-Pro, 4 seasons with 10+ sacks... Again, pretty good, but not sure WoF good. Then again, he was one of the drought's few bright spots, so beggars can't be choosers 😅

 

 

 

[deanjf]

Vontae Davis

[Captain_Quint]

12 hours ago, cwater10 said:

I agree completely on Fred.  Great guy, important player for the team, but not Wall of Fame worthy.  However, I think Kyle definitely deserves to be on the wall.  From his Wikipedia page:  

 

"At the time of his retirement, Williams ranked fifth in Bills history in tackles and sacks (first overall in sacks among defensive tackles), and made six Pro Bowls. He was described by the Associated Press as "the heart and soul" of the Bills during his time there."

 

That qualifies in my book.

2nd team all pro in 2010 as well

[papazoid]

On 1/12/2023 at 4:00 PM, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him:
2015 Lou Saban
2017 Cookie Gilchrist

 

Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era?
Cornelius Bennett?
James Lofton?
Ruben Brown?
Eric Moulds?

 

Is any player from the drought era worthy?
Kyle Williams?
Fred Jackson?
Brian Moorman?
Aaron Schobel?
Eric Wood?

 

as a generalization.....anyone who has made 3 or more pro bowls as a bill is a YES

 

bennett absolutely YES

brown absolutely YES

kyle absolutely YES

moulds YES

moorman YES

 

james lofton.....not here long enough

fred jax  not until all those YES's are on

schobel after fred

wood after schobel