Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

[90sBills]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Saffold was beat off the snap and Allen's arm was getting hit as he threw it. You're being unrealistic.

I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a supposedly elite qb to make plays in tough conditions to advance his team.

 

Of course they have to surround Allen with talent. But everyone keeps going on and on about getting elite positions all over the place. Allen is supposed to be elite. Elite qb’s elevate their teams. Not the other way around. He doesn’t need the whole team to be superior to win a superbowl. He’s not Trent Dilfer.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Could he have been in the area for a physical?? Was him and his team in the area to have trade talks? Cardinals granted him permission to talk with teams🤔

Does talking include visiting and physical?

 

Honestly questioning.

 

Normally, trades are completed after the physical examination is completed and the player is cleared but the deal is usually already announced prior to that.

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a supposedly elite qb to make plays in tough conditions to advance his team.

 

[CincyBillsFan]

46 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Their line is great in the interior. Their tackles are meh. Evidence by both not resigned this offseason. Mahomes style of play mask a lot of the tackles mistakes. He seems to have a sixth sense of where pressure is coming from and evades it.

 

Allen is just as mobile if not more. He can improve on getting a better feel for pressure in the pocket to evade. While Dorsey does need to improve next year with play calling Allen has to shoulder some of the offensive inefficiency blame. There were guys underneath all season that were missed and drives stalled. Including the Bengals game. That has to change. If Allen hit Diggs, who was wide open, on that first drive in the Bengals game it may have turned out differently. An elite qb cannot miss that in a playoff game. It’s not all on Dorsey. 

The Chiefs two Offensive Tackles last season were better as a tandem then the Bills two tackles and it wasn't even close.  The only reason the Chiefs didn't resign their guys was that they had gotten to expensive.  In fact the Chiefs tried to resign Brown but there was no way they could afford to pay him what the Bengals did.

 

Also, pressure up the middle is far worse then pressure around the end for QB's like Mahomes & Allen.  The number of times in the Bengal's game that Allen was under duress almost immediately on the interior of the O line was ridiculous. That pressure had a huge impact on Allen's game.

 

 

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

14 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Facts are you guys are not watching the games or not understanding what you’re watching. Their tackles were so great they let them go this offseason. One to the Bengals of all places. Going to be interesting how that will work out with Burrow being a statue.

this is one huge big line of BS. feed it to someone who does not know better.

[90sBills]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Com’on really? This is too easy. Did you missed them winning the other two? Even Brady with his punchable face can’t win them all. 

[PrimeTime101]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The Chiefs two Offensive Tackles last season were better as a tandem then the Bills two tackles and it wasn't even close.  The only reason the Chiefs didn't resign their guys was that they had gotten to expensive.  In fact the Chiefs tried to resign Brown but there was no way they could afford to pay him what the Bengals did.

 

Also, pressure up the middle is far worse then pressure around the end for QB's like Mahomes & Allen.  The number of times in the Bengal's game that Allen was under duress almost immediately on the interior of the O line was ridiculous. That pressure had a huge impact on Allen's game.

 

 

 

 

100% agree

 

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Com’on really? This is too easy. Did you missed them winning the other two? Even Brady with his punchable face can’t win them all. 

 

Yeah I figured you would miss the point. See ya.

[CincyBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a supposedly elite qb to make plays in tough conditions to advance his team.

 

Of course they have to surround Allen with talent. But everyone keeps going on and on about getting elite positions all over the place. Allen is supposed to be elite. Elite qb’s elevate their teams. Not the other way around. He doesn’t need the whole team to be superior to win a superbowl. He’s not Trent Dilfer.

Allen isn't supposed to be elite, he is Elite.

 

Allen does elevate his team.  The Bills would be a 5 - 7 win team fighting to avoid last place in the AFC East without him.

 

Allen has played very well in the playoffs.  He is more then "good enough" to lead Buffalo to the Super Bowl.  But all you have to do is take a look at the teams that have played in the last 3 SB's to see just how deficient Allen's supporting offensive cast is versus those teams.

 

I'm sorry but you don't sound like a Bills fan to me.  Sure there are legitimate criticisms of Allen's game and he could improve certain aspects of it.  But your persistent passive/aggressive attacks on Allen, laying almost all the blame on the guy makes me wonder whether you really are a Bills fan.

 

 

 

 

[90sBills]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The Chiefs two Offensive Tackles last season were better as a tandem then the Bills two tackles and it wasn't even close.  The only reason the Chiefs didn't resign their guys was that they had gotten to expensive.  In fact the Chiefs tried to resign Brown but there was no way they could afford to pay him what the Bengals did.

 

Also, pressure up the middle is far worse then pressure around the end for QB's like Mahomes & Allen.  The number of times in the Bengal's game that Allen was under duress almost immediately on the interior of the O line was ridiculous. That pressure had a huge impact on Allen's game.

 

 

 

 

You realized they signed Brown’s replacement for more money right? They let him walk because he thought he was better than he is and the market told him nah.

 

Completely agree with you on interior pressure. Hoping they can draft/sign a couple more ol cuz I’m not sure what they’ve done so far is enough. 

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah I figured you would miss the point. See ya.

Like the point made about bad receivers being household names?

 

yeah see ya

[90sBills]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Allen isn't supposed to be elite, he is Elite.

 

Allen does elevate his team.  The Bills would be a 5 - 7 win team fighting to avoid last place in the AFC East without him.

 

Allen has played very well in the playoffs.  He is more then "good enough" to lead Buffalo to the Super Bowl.  But all you have to do is take a look at the teams that have played in the last 3 SB's to see just how deficient Allen's supporting offensive cast is versus those teams.

 

I'm sorry but you don't sound like a Bills fan to me.  Sure there are legitimate criticisms of Allen's game and he could improve certain aspects of it.  But your persistent passive/aggressive attacks on Allen, laying almost all the blame on the guy makes me wonder whether you really are a Bills fan.

 

 

 

 

I know he is elite. By holding him to a higher standard I’m treating him more of an elite qb than most here who just want to coddle and give him passes. Of course he’s good enough to lead the Bills to a superbowl. I’ve said this multiple times. The line needs to be better. I argue that his receiver corp, including Knox, is very good. He needs to maximize them.

 

Just he because I hold my elite qb accountable doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for him and the team. I’m not blinded by fandom so much that I can’t see reality. And reality is this team has underperformed and there’s blame across the board. 

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

Their line is great in the interior. Their tackles are meh. Evidence by both not resigned this offseason. Mahomes style of play mask a lot of the tackles mistakes. He seems to have a sixth sense of where pressure is coming from and evades it.

 

Allen is just as mobile if not more. He can improve on getting a better feel for pressure in the pocket to evade. While Dorsey does need to improve next year with play calling Allen has to shoulder some of the offensive inefficiency blame. There were guys underneath all season that were missed and drives stalled. Including the Bengals game. That has to change. If Allen hit Diggs, who was wide open, on that first drive in the Bengals game it may have turned out differently. An elite qb cannot miss that in a playoff game. It’s not all on Dorsey. 

Mahomes misses throws all the time. Folks don't remark upon it when your team ultimately wins. I do agree that Allen needs to take the small stuff. He did that impressively in the perfect game against the Pats* and was playing as well as a qb can play in the 13 seconds fiasco. What happened after that? Daboll left for the Giants' job. Dorsey was hired to maintain continuity, but inevitably, there were significant differences. Dorsey may grow into a top OC. He's not there yet. Dorsey does not blend the running game and the passing offense into a cohesive attack. The calls are too random, the RZ offense is very predictable, and Dorsey does not sufficiently make use of pass catching rbs or Knox in general. However much that was dictated by Allen's injury and a bad oline, I don't know, but he needs to improve.

 

Josh Allen does also need to make the whole field dangerous by utilizing short passes and targeting Knox more often when he is open. Allen is not elusive in the way that Mahomes is elusive. Mahomes is like a snake, slippery and annoying. Allen is a bull with surprising speed and athleticism.

[PrimeTime101]

5 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

You realized they signed Brown’s replacement for more money right? They let him walk because he thought he was better than he is and the market told him nah.

 

Completely agree with you on interior pressure. Hoping they can draft/sign a couple more ol cuz I’m not sure what they’ve done so far is enough. 

Like the point made about bad receivers being household names?

 

yeah see ya

Sir, I have read all your replies so far with this new account... Did you make a new account just to go out and annoy the top writers are on these boards, or did you make an account to try and understand and keep an open minded... cause It seems to me your leading the line of not being open minded on topics. and to people with new accounts on these boards.. you can lose credibility really fast..

 

Now All that being said. I see your point where just because you see what you feel is not a good product on the field does not mean anything to how others feel about our current situation.

 

Anyhow Best of luck mate

[90sBills]

2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Sir, I have read all your replies so far with this new account... Did you make a new account just to go out and annoy the top writers are on these boards, or did you make an account to try and understand and keep an open minded... cause It seems to me your leading the line of not being open minded on topics. and to people with new accounts on these boards.. you can lose credibility really fast..

 

Now All that being said. I see your point where just because you see what you feel is not a good product on the field does not mean anything to how others feel about our current situation.

 

Anyhow Best of luck mate

I thought I was engaging with other fans of the team I root for. Is this not the place to do that? Having a different pov and being critical of the team and its players would lose credibility?

 

Appreciate you reading my posts. 

[90sBills]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Mahomes misses throws all the time. Folks don't remark upon it when your team ultimately wins. I do agree that Allen needs to take the small stuff. He did that impressively in the perfect game against the Pats* and was playing as well as a qb can play in the 13 seconds fiasco. What happened after that? Daboll left for the Giants' job. Dorsey was hired to maintain continuity, but inevitably, there were significant differences. Dorsey may grow into a top OC. He's not there yet. Dorsey does not blend the running game and the passing offense into a cohesive attack. The calls are too random, the RZ offense is very predictable, and Dorsey does not sufficiently make use of pass catching rbs or Knox in general. However much that was dictated by Allen's injury and a bad oline, I don't know, but he needs to improve.

 

Josh Allen does also need to make the whole field dangerous by utilizing short passes and targeting Knox more often when he is open. Allen is not elusive in the way that Mahomes is elusive. Mahomes is like a snake, slippery and annoying. Allen is a bull with surprising speed and athleticism.

Yes! Thank you good Dr! This is what I’m saying. Dorsey clearly has to improve as a playcaller. When Allen start using the short stuffs in tandem with the long shots I think this team would be on a whole new level. Here’s hoping that next year we’ll see it more consistently.

 

I guess I’m still pissed about the Bengals game. More upset than the 13sec game.

[PrimeTime101]

39 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I thought I was engaging with other fans of the team I root for. Is this not the place to do that? Having a different pov and being critical of the team and its players would lose credibility?

 

Appreciate you reading my posts. 

I think you were just coming out negative more than anything.. Again the issue is... people around here are warry of new accounts   Take a deep breath man. take time to read other posts and think about it instead of knee jerk reactions

 

anyhow  

 

cheers

[Justin C]

Can we change the title of this thread? I don’t think the last few pages have even been about Hopkins.

[PrimeTime101]

1 minute ago, Justin C said:

Can we change the title of this thread? I don’t think the last few pages have even been about Hopkins.

not till we reach 200 pages and we are 10000% sure we cant get the dude. 

[Dr. Who]

7 minutes ago, Justin C said:

Can we change the title of this thread? I don’t think the last few pages have even been about Hopkins.

You're going to trigger @4merper4mer. There's nothing going on with Hopkins. Probably nothing will happen. It's the nature of discursive conversation to ramble into side paths and down various annoying rabbit holes. It's the human way. If you want linear, logical, single-minded univocal consistency, try a different species.

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

You're going to trigger @4merper4mer. There's nothing going on with Hopkins. Probably nothing will happen. It's the nature of discursive conversation to ramble into side paths and down various annoying rabbit holes. It's the human way. If you want linear, logical, single-minded univocal consistency, try a different species.

You are right.  What the board should probably do is to simply not have thread titles at all.