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Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?


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2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I'd be mildly amused if it turns out you are related to Monti Ossenfort.

Nah, I just realize that Hopkins has put up fantastic career numbers while having a big double team rate. Pairing him with Diggs would likely give him plenty of 1 on 1 matchups with Allen throwing to him being the cherry on top. It’s like a major LE storm. You see the potential days out and you know it’s going to absolutely crush. It’s literally the perfect storm, and I’m here for it. 

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3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


D Hop last 2 years - 572 and 717 yards


You do realise that the D Hop that’s available is the 2023 version right? We aren’t trading for 2018 D Hop

Shame on you. This is such disingenuous it’s criminal. Missed out on 6 and 8 games respectively with only 42 rec and 64 rec. 

1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

With what QB's? Have to think he would be even better with Diggs and Allen on his side.

Wilson isn’t some slob, look what numbers he had in Seattle with real WRs. 

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Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

Nah, I just realize that Hopkins has put up fantastic career numbers while having a big double team rate. Pairing him with Diggs would likely give him plenty of 1 on 1 matchups with Allen throwing to him being the cherry on top. It’s like a major LE storm. You see the potential days out and you know it’s going to absolutely crush. It’s literally the perfect storm, and I’m here for it. 

I understand your sales pitch. Over in another thread, I was defending you as actually a rational human being (don't make me regret it.)

You can't really anticipate the future. Someone might get hurt, for example. But yes, I agree they are a formidable pair.

I'm not sure AZ really wants to trade him. You can put an unrealistic price tag if what you really want is to say "we tried" and keep the fella.

I wouldn't call their bluff by paying even more. Wait them out and get him for a fair price, especially if it involves taking on the full salary.

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4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Nah, I just realize that Hopkins has put up fantastic career numbers while having a big double team rate. Pairing him with Diggs would likely give him plenty of 1 on 1 matchups with Allen throwing to him being the cherry on top. It’s like a major LE storm. You see the potential days out and you know it’s going to absolutely crush. It’s literally the perfect storm, and I’m here for it. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:


 

Not next years - can’t do that.  
 

Too high a probability compared to the last 4 years with how tough the division is going to be we might not make the playoffs - odds of that are higher. 
 

We could be picking in the top 15-20 next year.  
 

Going in to last year zero doubt we were winning the division which is why our 2023 1st should have been on the table for a deal like we’re trying to make one year too late. 
 

At least Beane knows the cap.   

Disagree about any back sliding my friend. We will again be in the conversation for SB

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Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

A one off suspension and an injury. A total non issue. Did you not watch his return last year? Didn’t miss a step and the hoodie was salivating over him on the sidelines. 


That’s why there is so much interest in him right? 

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3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Wilson isn’t some slob, look what numbers he had in Seattle with real WRs. 

Did you see Wilson play at all last season? Do you think he played well? Did you see Geno play?

 

I think he was in a good system in Seattle that made him look better than he is. In any event, he is NOT Allen.

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5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


D Hop last 2 years - 572 and 717 yards


You do realise that the D Hop that’s available is the 2023 version right? We aren’t trading for 2018 D Hop

 

D Hop last 2 years - 10 games and 9 games.  Last year he averaged 79.7 ypg, which is just a bit better than his career average of 77.9 or his Zona average of 77 (but down a bit from 78.2 in HOU)

 

The question comes down to the injury history etc. 

In 2021, he was bothered by a series of nagging injuries - ribs, hamstring, and then finally an MCL tear.

 

Last season, he missed the first 6 games because he was suspended for PED use, then was injured again and did not play in the last 2 games due to a "grade 1 knee sprain" (grade 1 means no tearing) - whether he could have gone if the games meant something, we won't know.

 

But, he'll also be 32, an age when the length of the football season takes its toll and injuries start to mount.

 

If anyone is interested, Draft Sharks gives his injury history, and calculates his chance of an injury at 58% for next season, with the projection he'll miss 3 games.

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/deandre-hopkins/6679

 

The new guy a lot of folks are enthusiastic about has recurring hammy problems, btw

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