Goin Breakdown Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, Stretch said: That is mighty nice of McD to be your mattress. Haha. Yep typo right there
HappyDays Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I blame Josh for not having the #1 seed. Couldn't throw a ball to a WIDE OPEN McKenzie in the Miami game, the fumble in the end zone against Minny and the stupid int's in the red zone. I blame Dorsey for not forcing Josh to use the short game and take what was available. I blame Frazier for not playing more press. I blame injuries, one heck of a challenging year inside and outside of football. There's a lot of blame to go around, but everyone just dumps on Davis. Did he drop passes he should have caught? Sure. But it wasn't all his fault for where we ended. I'm not saying Davis singlehandedly cost us the #1 seed. But we're talking about upgradeable spots on the team. Allen isn't upgradeable. Dorsey isn't getting replaced. Frazier is already gone. I'm not complaining about Davis just to complain. We have a real opportunity to upgrade a part of the offense that was a major factor in why we fell short last year. Playing the blame game is missing the point. I'm focusing on something the Bills can actually control. 3 1
Goin Breakdown Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Good one! Is your name an ST reference, btw? Yes it is. Most underrated band imo. I'ts cool you caught that! 1
HappyDays Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, gordong said: So your assuming Cook is a nobody? sorry but can't agree with you on that one No, I was going to mention that Cook is the one player on that list where the jury is still out, but my post was getting long enough so I left it out. But considering Cook is a RB he would have to have a great career, something approaching Saquon Barkley, or at worst Ezekiel Elliott, for me to consider his career value greater than a couple years of DeAndre Hopkins. My overall point is that a 2nd round pick isn't nearly as valuable as all the hemming and hawing over it would have you believe. The cap space issue I am a little more sensitive to. 2
gordong Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: No, I was going to mention that Cook is the one player on that list where the jury is still out, but my post was getting long enough so I left it out. But considering Cook is a RB he would have to have a great career, something approaching Saquon Barkley, or at worst Ezekiel Elliott, for me to consider his career value greater than a couple years of DeAndre Hopkins. My overall point is that a 2nd round pick isn't nearly as valuable as all the hemming and hawing over it would have you believe. The cap space issue I am a little more sensitive to. I would agree with you only one way.. if in one of the two years we win a superbowl.
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No, I was going to mention that Cook is the one player on that list where the jury is still out, but my post was getting long enough so I left it out. But considering Cook is a RB he would have to have a great career, something approaching Saquon Barkley, or at worst Ezekiel Elliott, for me to consider his career value greater than a couple years of DeAndre Hopkins. My overall point is that a 2nd round pick isn't nearly as valuable as all the hemming and hawing over it would have you believe. The cap space issue I am a little more sensitive to. If you want to believe what these Twitter guys say.,, Beane has already provided the best offer… he shouldn’t be bidding against himself.. 1
4merper4mer Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: If you want to believe what these Twitter guys say.,, Beane has already provided the best offer… he shouldn’t be bidding against himself.. I read right on here that we should do whatever it takes.
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: I read right on here that we should do whatever it takes. I would love to be selling my house to some of these guys
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: If you want to believe what these Twitter guys say.,, Beane has already provided the best offer… he shouldn’t be bidding against himself.. What if AZ says F it, and just holds onto Dhop without taking the Bills “best offer” . Sometimes bidding against yourself is necessary to land the deal. 2
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: If you want to believe what these Twitter guys say.,, Beane has already provided the best offer… he shouldn’t be bidding against himself.. I agree. The new AZ GM's ask is too much, doesn't matter if in a vacuum one can argue Hopkins as a player is worth a 2nd round pick. And if you are asking the Bills to absorb most or all of Hopkins' contract, the price has got to come down. No one is paying that. 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Dr. Who said: I agree. The new AZ GM's ask is too much, doesn't matter if in a vacuum one can argue Hopkins as a player is worth a 2nd round pick. And if you are asking the Bills to absorb most or all of Hopkins' contract, the price has got to come down. No one is paying that. Then AZ just says ok Dhop, we are keeping you regardless of how you feel. Nobody wins. Bills lose out on a golden opportunity and we run it back. Sigh.
4merper4mer Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: What if AZ says F it, and just holds onto Dhop without taking the Bills “best offer” . Sometimes bidding against yourself is necessary to land the deal. Beane should stomp his feet and demand Arizona throw in some magically delicious breakfast cereal and then give up five firsts.
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: What if AZ says F it, and just holds onto Dhop without taking the Bills “best offer” . Sometimes bidding against yourself is necessary to land the deal. What happens? Jeudy , Jeudy , Jeudy… 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: What happens? Jeudy , Jeudy , Jeudy… Lol Denver just lost a WR to an injury. I doubt they trade Jeudy now. It’s either Hopkins or we roll into the draft. 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Beane should stomp his feet and demand Arizona throw in some magically delicious breakfast cereal and then give up five firsts. We want Hopkins! Just say no to running it back. Running it back is bad kids, don’t do it.
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Lol Denver just lost a WR to an injury. I doubt they trade Jeudy now. It’s either Hopkins or we roll into the draft. Ok… I don’t want a GM that is just going to pay whatever it takes to acquire players 1
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Then AZ just says ok Dhop, we are keeping you regardless of how you feel. Nobody wins. Bills lose out on a golden opportunity and we run it back. Sigh. Yep, it might be that. Folks who say make lemonade when life gives you lemons are taking refuge in a cheap aphorism. The possible doesn't always present you with a good option. But in reality, the Bills don't have to invest all the early picks on D. They could invest an early pick in a WR and hope to get lucky. I like Dalton Kincaid as a dangerous offensive weapon at TE in a year where the WR pool doesn't look that great. Or maybe you wait it out and see if the AZ GM decides to be a tad more reasonable.
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 If we are expected to take on his full salary before restructuring him, a 4th and a 5th should get it done. Hopefully the trade happens between today and Monday while Owners and GMs are together 1
TheWeatherMan Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I blame Josh for not having the #1 seed. Couldn't throw a ball to a WIDE OPEN McKenzie in the Miami game, the fumble in the end zone against Minny and the stupid int's in the red zone. I blame Dorsey for not forcing Josh to use the short game and take what was available. I blame Frazier for not playing more press. I blame injuries, one heck of a challenging year inside and outside of football. There's a lot of blame to go around, but everyone just dumps on Davis. Did he drop passes he should have caught? Sure. But it wasn't all his fault for where we ended. Football is a team sport, I get it. But Davis flat out can’t be relied on in the clutch. His drop of the ball against the Jets with 35 seconds left, the one that hit him between the numbers, would have most likely gotten us the W and the #1 seed. As of now, Davis is a #3 at best. I hope that changes, but you can’t gamble on not having a #2 like we did last year. 1 1 1 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Ok… I don’t want a GM that is just going to pay whatever it takes to acquire players 95/100 scenarios I agree. But where we are at today, this type of aggression is warranted. Nobody is guarding both Diggs and Hopkins. Beane needs to stop over thinking it and realize that we are unstoppable with Hopkins drawing attention away from Diggs. It’s a no brainer. 1
Aussie Joe Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: 95/100 scenarios I agree. But where we are at today, this type of aggression is warranted. Nobody is guarding both Diggs and Hopkins. Beane needs to stop over thinking it and realize that we are unstoppable with Hopkins drawing attention away from Diggs. It’s a no brainer. Man.. relax…see what happens … This could drag out to draft day… in a negotiation .. you don’t just cave into the demands from the other side straight away Edited March 25, 2023 by Aussie Joe
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