Turbo44 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Actually Davis is an average if not above average #2. Not many teams have a complimentary receiver like the Bengals and Dolphins. With that said would I love to add Nuk and get in that conversation with the Bengals and Dolphins? Yes, very much yes. I think someone earlier in the thread posted he was rated #100 WR which is a low #3.
Mcg Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 I'll be sleeping on the couch for avoiding my wife for the last 2 days . 4
Jay_Fixit Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Hey, do me a quick favor and go get your SHINEBOX!! I want to see them shoes DAZZLE!! NUK!!!! Don’t act all cute after your actions yesterday. BRO 1
Goin Breakdown Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Mcg said: I'll be sleeping on the couch for avoiding my wife for the last 2 days . Sometime I sleep on the couch TO avoid my wife. fixed it lol Edited March 25, 2023 by Goin Breakdown 2 2
Nephilim17 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said: Sometime I sleep on the coach TO avoid my wife. Good one! Is your name an ST reference, btw?
folz Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Whoever leaked this is trying to compare a 26-year old RB whose 3 best seasons averaged 2,080 yards and 15 TDs per against a 30-year old WR whose 3 best years averaged 1,486 yards and 9TDs? And you can't use CMC injuries as an excuse that it evens things out, when DHop has missed 15 games over the last two years due to injury/suspension (despite being healthy for most of his career prior---but he is also 30 now). No doubt these are both great players, and I would love to have DHop on the Bills, if it works out (at the right price)...but this comparison is beyond ridiculous. DHop is not worth the same as CMC in trade value...and no one is buying that.
HappyDays Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: That quote isn't exactly right. He posts the actual video in the tweet below: Jeremy Fowler says Arizona is asking for "a 2nd round pick and more." He uses the McCaffrey trade as an example, he does not say Arizona wants a 2nd and a 3rd. So this isn't new information. The report all along has been that Hopkins is available for a 2nd rounder plus a conditional pick. As I said earlier if Beane is playing a game of chicken and waiting until Arizona drops their asking price closer to the draft, that's fine. But if he ultimately has to lose the game of chicken to acquire a true WR2 then he should just do it. A brief history of Bills 2nd round picks in the McDermott era: James Cook Boogie Basham AJ Epenesa Cody Ford Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Dawkins is the only player on that list where you would take his career with the Bills over two years of DeAndre Hopkins. This hasn't been said enough - does everyone realize Gabe Davis cost us the #1 seed last year? He dropped a TD in the Dolphins loss. He dropped that ridiculous 70 yard pass on 4th and 21 in the Jets loss which at the very least put us into position to tie the game. And then against the Bengals in the playoffs when we still had a fighting chance he dropped a 3rd down deep throw which effectively ended the game for us. All of that plus he had trouble separating most of the year. So just know if you don't want the Bills to give up a 2nd for Hopkins, you're signing up for another year of that. I don't get it. 3 3 1
PrimeTime101 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: That quote isn't exactly right. He posts the actual video in the tweet below: Jeremy Fowler says Arizona is asking for "a 2nd round pick and more." He uses the McCaffrey trade as an example, he does not say Arizona wants a 2nd and a 3rd. So this isn't new information. The report all along has been that Hopkins is available for a 2nd rounder plus a conditional pick. As I said earlier if Beane is playing a game of chicken and waiting until Arizona drops their asking price closer to the draft, that's fine. But if he ultimately has to lose the game of chicken to acquire a true WR2 then he should just do it. A brief history of Bills 2nd round picks in the McDermott era: James Cook Boogie Basham AJ Epenesa Cody Ford Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Dawkins is the only player on that list where you would take his career with the Bills over two years of DeAndre Hopkins. This hasn't been said enough - does everyone realize Gabe Davis cost us the #1 seed last year? He dropped a TD in the Dolphins loss. He dropped that ridiculous 70 yard pass on 4th and 21 in the Jets loss which at the very least put us into position to tie the game. And then against the Bengals in the playoffs when we still had a fighting chance he dropped a 3rd down deep throw which effectively ended the game for us. All of that plus he had trouble separating most of the year. So just know if you don't want the Bills to give up a 2nd for Hopkins, you're signing up for another year of that. I don't get it. thanks for getting this back on topic. Great post bro. 1000% agree with you 1 1
Stretch Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Sometime I sleep on the coach TO avoid my wife. That is mighty nice of McD to be your mattress. 1
ndirish1978 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Yep, new GM is asking for the moon. If this gets done at all, it won't be soon
Low Positive Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 The thing is that the Cardinals don't have to trade him. They could keep him and expect to contend in 2024 when Kyler is back for the whole season. 1
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Yep, new GM is asking for the moon. If this gets done at all, it won't be soon actually if you listen to the video Fowler states “talking to other teams around the league they do expect something to shake out with a Hopkins trade with Arizona in the near future” Based on what Fowler said in the video clip, my guess is other teams believe Arizona is just posturing and will soon accept the current best offer Edited March 25, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: actually if you listen to the video Fowler states “talking to other teams around the league they do expect it to shake out with a Hopkins trade in the near future” With the owners meetings convening in Arizona, it would make sense that this might get done in the next couple of days with everyone together out there. 1
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, HappyDays said: That quote isn't exactly right. He posts the actual video in the tweet below: Jeremy Fowler says Arizona is asking for "a 2nd round pick and more." He uses the McCaffrey trade as an example, he does not say Arizona wants a 2nd and a 3rd. So this isn't new information. The report all along has been that Hopkins is available for a 2nd rounder plus a conditional pick. As I said earlier if Beane is playing a game of chicken and waiting until Arizona drops their asking price closer to the draft, that's fine. But if he ultimately has to lose the game of chicken to acquire a true WR2 then he should just do it. A brief history of Bills 2nd round picks in the McDermott era: James Cook Boogie Basham AJ Epenesa Cody Ford Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Dawkins is the only player on that list where you would take his career with the Bills over two years of DeAndre Hopkins. This hasn't been said enough - does everyone realize Gabe Davis cost us the #1 seed last year? He dropped a TD in the Dolphins loss. He dropped that ridiculous 70 yard pass on 4th and 21 in the Jets loss which at the very least put us into position to tie the game. And then against the Bengals in the playoffs when we still had a fighting chance he dropped a 3rd down deep throw which effectively ended the game for us. All of that plus he had trouble separating most of the year. So just know if you don't want the Bills to give up a 2nd for Hopkins, you're signing up for another year of that. I don't get it. I blame Josh for not having the #1 seed. Couldn't throw a ball to a WIDE OPEN McKenzie in the Miami game, the fumble in the end zone against Minny and the stupid int's in the red zone. I blame Dorsey for not forcing Josh to use the short game and take what was available. I blame Frazier for not playing more press. I blame injuries, one heck of a challenging year inside and outside of football. There's a lot of blame to go around, but everyone just dumps on Davis. Did he drop passes he should have caught? Sure. But it wasn't all his fault for where we ended. 3 2 1
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said: With the owners meetings convening in Arizona, it would make sense that this might get done in the next couple of days with everyone together out there. agreed. Hopefully for us. A 4th and a 5th in different drafts seems like a fair compromise 1
PrimeTime101 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I blame Josh for not having the #1 seed. Couldn't throw a ball to a WIDE OPEN McKenzie in the Miami game, the fumble in the end zone against Minny and the stupid int's in the red zone. I blame Dorsey for not forcing Josh to use the short game and take what was available. I blame Frazier for not playing more press. I blame injuries, one heck of a challenging year inside and outside of football. There's a lot of blame to go around, but everyone just dumps on Davis. Did he drop passes he should have caught? Sure. But it wasn't all his fault for where we ended. I agree. but wait.. someone will chime in and take 1 dr's words that JA could chuck the ball 60 yards down the field easier than a 3 yard pass...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 That being put out on ESPN likely puts pressure on AZ’s new GM
gordong Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, HappyDays said: That quote isn't exactly right. He posts the actual video in the tweet below: Jeremy Fowler says Arizona is asking for "a 2nd round pick and more." He uses the McCaffrey trade as an example, he does not say Arizona wants a 2nd and a 3rd. So this isn't new information. The report all along has been that Hopkins is available for a 2nd rounder plus a conditional pick. As I said earlier if Beane is playing a game of chicken and waiting until Arizona drops their asking price closer to the draft, that's fine. But if he ultimately has to lose the game of chicken to acquire a true WR2 then he should just do it. A brief history of Bills 2nd round picks in the McDermott era: James Cook Boogie Basham AJ Epenesa Cody Ford Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Dawkins is the only player on that list where you would take his career with the Bills over two years of DeAndre Hopkins. This hasn't been said enough - does everyone realize Gabe Davis cost us the #1 seed last year? He dropped a TD in the Dolphins loss. He dropped that ridiculous 70 yard pass on 4th and 21 in the Jets loss which at the very least put us into position to tie the game. And then against the Bengals in the playoffs when we still had a fighting chance he dropped a 3rd down deep throw which effectively ended the game for us. All of that plus he had trouble separating most of the year. So just know if you don't want the Bills to give up a 2nd for Hopkins, you're signing up for another year of that. I don't get it. So your assuming Cook is a nobody? sorry but can't agree with you on that one
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: I agree. but wait.. someone will chime in and take 1 dr's words that JA could chuck the ball 60 yards down the field easier than a 3 yard pass... Probably. I almost put it in another thread about unpopular opinions. I probably should have put a PS. In there also stating he is the reason we won other games, but probably would have been ignored with the rest of it.😂 2
PrimeTime101 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, LyndonvilleBill said: Probably. I almost put it in another thread about unpopular opinions. I probably should have put a PS. In there also stating he is the reason we won other games, but probably would have been ignored with the rest of it.😂 HA HA! glad we cleared that up! lol. someone with a head on their shoulders... I LIKE IT! lol! Cheers 1
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