Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: you wont be missed, trust me. go back to lurking now and do the board a favor by eliminating your presence altogether. I will always be an active cyber fan, what I mean by lurking is financially protesting.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: I will always be an active cyber fan, what I mean by lurking is financially protesting. like that matters. I bet they will miss all that cash you spent. likely claim bankruptcy...🤣 3
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: I will always be an active cyber fan, what I mean by lurking is financially protesting. Financially, protesting Are you gonna stop buying bills, jerseys or something? 1
JimBob2232 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, papazoid said: Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2023 is $40 mil Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2024 is $100 mil Not as bad as you think. Cap it supposed to go up another 30M next year. With that kind of cap growth - this becomes much less of an issue. Those players will continue to restructure (unless age gets in the way - Von) - and lower the current cap hit - and push it forward into 2025+ where the cap is even BIGGER. Pushing forward cap hits is a terrible idea when the cap is static. But when it's going up 10-15%/year - this is the game you play.
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Financially, protesting Are you gonna stop buying bills, jerseys or something? I won’t buy tickets, etc. Just like did with Ralph after some time. But it doesn’t matter, there will always be a sucker fan that replaces. Owning the Bills is the easiest business on Earth. Edited March 25, 2023 by IronMaidenBills 2
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: I won’t buy tickets, etc. Just like did with Ralph after some time. Lololololool so somebody else is going to get a ticket probably not as entitled as you 1
Behindenemylines Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: I will always be an active cyber fan, what I mean by lurking is financially protesting. I’ve never considered Lurking to mean Financially protesting, but ok. this site is about conversation and opinions within the Bills fan base. Be a fan or not but silly statements of financial protests, leavingTBD, never watching another game, should just be checked at the door. Might as well say you’ll now protest tennis if the Bills don’t win a Super Bowl because Pegulas daughter is a pro tennis player. Same rationale I’d silliness
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Lololololool so somebody else is going to get a ticket probably not as entitled as you There is always a simp fan willing to eat a plate of poo. Easiest business in the world. 1
papazoid Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Not as bad as you think. Cap it supposed to go up another 30M next year. With that kind of cap growth - this becomes much less of an issue. Those players will continue to restructure (unless age gets in the way - Von) - and lower the current cap hit - and push it forward into 2025+ where the cap is even BIGGER. Pushing forward cap hits is a terrible idea when the cap is static. But when it's going up 10-15%/year - this is the game you play. everything you're saying is true....let me try to make my point a different way the salary cap is going up $30 mil for all teams.....but the bills have already pushed more dollars into the future than our main opponents. they will be in much better position to improve their roster. spotrac estimated cap space for 2024: Bills minus $17 mil (thats over the the cap already) KC plus $62 (under) Cincy plus $109 (under) this is just a generalization....we can quibble about who is or isnt in those cap totals 2
H2o Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 I don't know about everyone else, but I'm actually good with a single "all in" season. Maybe it works out for us like the Rams, where it did not work out for the Eagles. Either way, SB or bust. Give Josh a set of weapons like Burrow has, draft a couple of promising OL'men in Rounds 1-4, and let's throw down. 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: There is always a simp fan willing to eat a plate of poo. Easiest business in the world. stop looking in the mirror at yourself. why are you calling yourself names like that and sharing what you eat for breakfast? you're no longer entertaining. all the whining in the near 100 posts you have contributed to this thread is, well, got kind of boring. 1
Mango Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, papazoid said: everything you're saying is true....let me try to make my point a different way the salary cap is going up $30 mil for all teams.....but the bills have already pushed more dollars into the future than our main opponents. they will be in much better position to improve their roster. spotrac estimated cap space for 2024: Bills minus $17 mil (thats over the the cap already) KC plus $62 (under) Cincy plus $109 (under) this is just a generalization....we can quibble about who is or isnt in those cap totals This is what I’ve been saying. And it’s not that I am against signing Miller or Hopkins. But I thought we had the opportunity to have a light reset last year. That would have provided us the ability to stabilize the roster for the next 2-3 years. But the longer you kick the can down the road the more the arrow moves from light reset to hard reset and you become the Rams. I am not against signing Hopkins. But I also know what that means. 1
Coach Tuesday Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 No one: The internet: Oh my God NO. NO WAY. We are NOT going to let this one idiot have a ridiculous opinion about something. NO WAY. We are going to collectively organize and research and build arguments and BEAT IT OUT OF HIM until he cries “uncle” and sees the error of his ways. 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mango said: This is what I’ve been saying. And it’s not that I am against signing Miller or Hopkins. But I thought we had the opportunity to have a light reset last year. That would have provided us the ability to stabilize the roster for the next 2-3 years. But the longer you kick the can down the road the more the arrow moves from light reset to hard reset and you become the Rams. I am not against signing Hopkins. But I also know what that means. Yes, but I also don’t want to be stuck in playoff limbo, where we are too successful to land another solid piece to win a super bowl. I’m ok being in the rams seat if it means we win a super bowl. We have to get the monkey off our backs. 2 1 1
finn Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 51 minutes ago, papazoid said: would i take the rams model of winning the super bowl then totally blowing it up a couple years later....hell yea, but there is no guarantee..... how painful is it now to be a rams fan in 2023 Or, worse, a fan of a 2023 Rams team that hadn't won the Super Bowl in 2022.
Dr. Who Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Yes, but I also don’t want to be stuck in playoff limbo, where we are too successful to land another solid piece to win a super bowl. I’m ok being in the rams seat if it means we win a super bowl. We have to get the monkey off our backs. I really hate walking around with a monkey on my back. For one thing, it makes putting a shirt on a constant onerous burden. And that doesn't even begin to consider the monkey's various hygienic habits or lack thereof. 1 1 2
BillsFan2313 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, papazoid said: Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2023 is $40 mil Allen / diggs / von combined cap hit for 2024 is $100 mil this is pretty strong evidence that beane is going for it now bills are currently right up against the salary cap and have already mortgaged part of our future years we currently have somewhere in the range of $5-10 mil in avail cap space that forces beane to make several small incremental upgrades with proven veterans on short term (1 yr) low salary ($2mil) deals when a superstar high cap player like hopkins is added....it likely means something might need to exit...like say an ed oliver so i reject the notion the bills aren't going for it.....any more going for it would be reckless would i take the rams model of winning the super bowl then totally blowing it up a couple years later....hell yea, but there is no guarantee..... how painful is it now to be a rams fan in 2023 Yep, It is a two year window with some of the core guys. This is the off season to add what you believe could be the finishing touches, then reset/retool in 2025, which unlike the Rams we have a top 3 QB, and a lot more future picks. that will make it easier to do. Me personally, if it meant signing Campbell to a 1 year deal and cutting Ed to save 10.5 million ( assuming no team takes his 10.5 million contract) to fit Hopkins, then you do it. This opens up the draft the next two years to get a younger DT via the draft. 1
Milanos Milano Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, finn said: Or, worse, a fan of a 2023 Rams team that hadn't won the Super Bowl in 2022. At some point we have to take a swing for the fence. If we don’t get it, oh well, at least it won’t be for a lack of not trying. Hopkins is the best asset available to help in areas that need the most help and has the best immediate return value. 1 1 1
TheWeatherMan Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Financially, protesting Are you gonna stop buying bills, jerseys or something? I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say that’s what he’s implying 🤦. 1
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