The Wiz Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hence, Nuk being willing to restructure his deal is likely a big part of this. So I heard this on the radio this morning and was kind of confused. Apparently players don't have to agree or sign or do anything for the organization to restructure their current contracts. Basically they are just changing the way they are paying the player over the current contract length (and most don't care either because it's more cash in hand). I heard it from Sal C. so I have to believe it is true. It only matters when they are extended which wouldn't happen since he already has 3 void years on his contract. Edited March 24, 2023 by The Wiz
Fan in Chicago Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, NewEra said: Exciting= Tyreek hill. I think Hill and Kelce and Hill and Waddle are more exciting. On paper yes but with Tua throwing to them, the excitement is decidedly lower. Allen throwing to Diggs and Hopkins would definitely be a LOT more fun 1
Airseven Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 AZ 98.7 speculates Ossenfort won't settle for a 3rd round pick for Hopkins, in part, because it's his first trade. But teams know it's a necessary salary dump and aren't meeting the asking price. Only leverage Cardinals have is to wait. 3
SCBills Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: As much as it sucks to think about I bet he’d rather go to KC. He’d be the guy and will have a better chance to win the Super Bowl than here Yea, I’m sure he desperately wants to be the KD of the NFL rather than be a legend on one of the few teams that can dethrone them. And, fwiw, Kelce is “the guy”. Edited March 24, 2023 by SCBills 1 1
psuscott16 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Airseven said: AZ 98.7 speculates Ossenfort won't settle for a 3rd round pick for Hopkins, in part, because it's his first trade. But teams know it's a necessary salary dump and aren't meeting the asking price. Only leverage Cardinals have is to wait. He is about to get a lesson in how the NFL works if that's the case. 2 1
papazoid Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Wiz said: So I heard this on the radio this morning and was kind of confused. Apparently players don't have to agree or sign or do anything for the organization to restructure their current contracts. Basically they are just changing the way they are paying the player over the current contract length (and most don't care either because it's more cash in hand). I heard it from Sal C. so I have to believe it is true. It only matters when they are extended which wouldn't happen since he already has 3 void years on his contract. #1 - Simple restructure Within the constraints of the remaining terms of the contract, a simple restructure turns payouts into prorated signing bonuses. Simple restructures can often be carried out by teams without the player's direct involvement. #2 - Maximum restructure A maximum restructure either extends the deal or adds vacant seasons to an agreement. These years do not stretch the contract but are solely used as stand-ins for the proration, increasing the cap space via modification into prorated signing bonuses. Maximum restructures are often viewed as a contract rework that requires the player's express approval to be executed. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-glossary-how-nfl-teams-restructure-contracts#:~:text=In order to free up space under the,can spread the impact out over five years. i'm a little shocked about #1......but seeing as the remaining terms are likely not guaranteed......and that the signing bonus defacto makes it guaranteed....no player would turn that down Edited March 24, 2023 by papazoid 2 1
SCBills Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 If what is being semi-reported is true… and Arizona doesn’t want to eat any cap, that new GM is going to have to lower his expectations and take a later pick or deal with a disgruntled star on his hands all season. Not sure how many teams, that Hopkins will work with, he sees out there with bucketloads of cap space. 1 1
NewEra Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: On paper yes but with Tua throwing to them, the excitement is decidedly lower. Allen throwing to Diggs and Hopkins would definitely be a LOT more fun Ok, then we aren’t talking about a duo. We’re talking about a threesome 2
CoffeeDrip Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: Ok, then we aren’t talking about a duo. We’re talking about a threesome
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: If what is being semi-reported is true… and Arizona doesn’t want to eat any cap, that new GM is going to have to lower his expectations and take a later pick or deal with a disgruntled star on his hands all season. Not sure how many teams, that Hopkins will work with, he sees out there with bucketloads of cap space. Not picking on our local sports guys either, but how much do they really know what a gm will or won't do, especially one who is in his first season? How long has it been since our local guys broke anything in regards to a trade? Point being, weezpect these guys in AZ with a new HC and new GM have any of that Intel? Meh...not buying
Buffalo03 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, gordong said: I don't know the more this drags on the less likely it going happen I'd say Sunday or bust. you gotta figure they have been working this for at least three or fours days already. if they can't hammer something out soon. I'd say Beane bails on it, just a gut feeling no proof. (He either wants to come here or he doesnt). The restructure would be happening with his agent not the team He's gonna go somewhere. It's either us or the Chiefs. This is being dragged out for them to. Do you think their fans are saying the same thing? I don't think Beane bails on this one as long as the Chiefs are in it. I don't think he let's that happen. This doesn't mean Hopkins doesn't want to come here either. It could be the Cardinals don't wanna eat any of his salary which makes it more difficult for both us and the Chiefs since we are both cash strapped. Edited March 24, 2023 by Buffalo03
TheWeatherMan Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ok, then we aren’t talking about a duo. We’re talking about a threesome 2 1 2
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) From Dan Fetes of Channel 13 Rochester: He mentioned with the people he talked to is that the Bills are interested "for the right price" One thing he mentioned that does cause some concern is that this reminds him of Zach Ertz. Where he was also able to confirm fire to the smoke. He mentioned that Beane in that situation (and all situations) is a Hardball kind of player. He makes an offer and really never budges from his price. With Ertz, they wouldn't agree to Beane's price - so that was that. The longer this goes on, the more I fear we may be heading to Ertz territory. Wherein, yes, Beane is interested and made an offer. But that offer isn't changing and they either come around to Beane's price, or they don't. Edited March 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19
boyst Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said: If you're that particular, you'll just have to wade through like a picker at a swap meet. Yes, the rumor at least was compensation would probably be closer to the Cooks deal in Dallas. It's worth a third, though. I'm just here to make @Alphadawg7 wade through another post while discovering nothing happened. 4
Aussie Joe Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: From Thad Brown of Channel 13 Rochester: Dan Fetes 1 1
Dr. Who Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: I'd probably have a heart attack just thinking about it. 1
Saint Doug Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: This is getting ridiculous. So much smoke. Where's the fire? More smoke than Tunsil celebrating his new contract. 1
twist_to_open Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 They now have Hopkins jerseys on sale at the Bill's store. https://shop.buffalobills.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwlPWgBhDHARIsAH2xdNd7FLiLoQ8ith6RnTiQpAT3fVpH8_tPrksT4R0D8Hemmnpkr7glJlUaAiHmEALw_wcB 1 2
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Sketchy source since I really don't know these guys and at least ECB had Edward's tweeted a day before the announcement which makes me feel good with their source. These guys = grain of salt and it looks like they are tagging on, but who knows.... 3
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