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  On 4/26/2023 at 3:07 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

What would your reaction be?

 

Bills get:

Pick 34

Hopkins

 

Cardinals get:

Pick 27

Oliver

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I actually proposed this trade months ago.  So I would be all for it given I don’t expect us to pay Oliver after this season.  

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Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 3:07 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

What would your reaction be?

 

Bills get:

Pick 34

Hopkins

 

Cardinals get:

Pick 27

Oliver

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Probably give up too much. But I’d still be fine with it. But that’s more along the lines that I think Oliver is trash. 

Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 4:10 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:


the Ravens suddenly investing $$$$ into WR along with 50 million a year into Lamar would certainly be an organizational philosophy change by them. 

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Not sure Lamar really knows how to throw to wide receivers. They'll have to tell him to pretend they are tight ends.

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Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 4:10 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:


the Ravens suddenly investing $$$$ into WR along with 50 million a year into Lamar would certainly be an organizational philosophy change by them. 

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Roman gone.  Monken in.  I would assume there would be a philosophy change 

Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 3:07 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

What would your reaction be?

 

Bills get:

Pick 34

Hopkins

 

Cardinals get:

Pick 27

Oliver

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Would need some salary retention by the Cards to make this okay. Creates a significant hole at 3T (Phillips and Settle are pretty underwhelming for such a vital position in a single-gapping 4-3 front); the Bills would HAVE to fill this role in the first couple rounds or maybe post-draft FA? Even if you think Oliver is a bum he is the primary starter at 3T, and is sometimes kind of good. 

 

Then again, I'm open to saying EFF THE ROTATIONAL DT DEPTH CHART if it means the Bills passing attack can take yet another important step forward. DHop and Diggs is a pretty legendary duo. 

Posted (edited)
  On 4/26/2023 at 4:47 AM, Richard Noggin said:

 

Would need some salary retention by the Cards to make this okay. Creates a significant hole at 3T (Phillips and Settle are pretty underwhelming for such a vital position in a single-gapping 4-3 front); the Bills would HAVE to fill this role in the first couple rounds or maybe post-draft FA? Even if you think Oliver is a bum he is the primary starter at 3T, and is sometimes kind of good. 

 

Then again, I'm open to saying EFF THE ROTATIONAL DT DEPTH CHART if it means the Bills passing attack can take yet another important step forward. DHop and Diggs is a pretty legendary duo. 

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I haven't the slightest idea why Arizona would want to rent Ed Oliver for a year.   His onerous salary makes him worth no more than a comp pick level pick in trade to a team that is actually trying to win.  Hell Poona Ford will probably sign anywhere for less than half of what Ed is getting.    For the Cardinals he seems kinda' valueless.       

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  On 4/26/2023 at 5:01 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I haven't the slightest idea why Arizona would want to rent Ed Oliver for a year.   His onerous salary makes him worth no more than a comp pick level pick in trade to a team that is actually trying to win.  Hell Poona Ford will probably sign anywhere for less than half of what Ed is getting.    For the Cardinals he seems kinda' valueless.       

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Agreed that he has more value in Buffalo for 2023 than in Arizona. Which even further weakens this proposed deal. It's just not a super logical fit except if maybe Oliver simply represents cap hit mitigation and 'Zona is kind of eager to get SOMETHING for Hopkins ASAP. Shrug?

Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 5:20 AM, Richard Noggin said:

 

Agreed that he has more value in Buffalo for 2023 than in Arizona. Which even further weakens this proposed deal. It's just not a super logical fit except if maybe Oliver simply represents cap hit mitigation and 'Zona is kind of eager to get SOMETHING for Hopkins ASAP. Shrug?

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I feel like Oliver being moved would be more to a team that was high on him during the draft process that thinks he could hit in his contract year.  We recoup a mid-round pick to offset a pick sent out for Hopkins. 

Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 5:01 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I haven't the slightest idea why Arizona would want to rent Ed Oliver for a year.   His onerous salary makes him worth no more than a comp pick level pick in trade to a team that is actually trying to win.  Hell Poona Ford will probably sign anywhere for less than half of what Ed is getting.    For the Cardinals he seems kinda' valueless.       

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Couldn't Arizona sign Ed to a long term contract if they acquired him? 

Posted
  On 4/26/2023 at 3:07 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

What would your reaction be?

 

Bills get:

Pick 34

Hopkins

 

Cardinals get:

Pick 27

Oliver

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Not really a fan of giving up Ed imo. Offer a third and a fifth this year and a conditional third or fourth next year.  
 

Trade back if possible in the first this year to reacquire some of the picks.  I’m not as high on the Hopkins as a lot of folks but wouldn’t mind having him if he’s healthy.

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