Bills with third least offseason resources (cap space, draft capital, prorateable $)

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Can free up 50 million by playing kickball with monopoly $   The cap isn't how it's perceived by many on here 

 

 

No.

 

It is not monopoly money. It is money from our future cap years.

 

We can and will free up some money. But doing so does hurt us, and Beane is aware of that and doesn't go overboard on it.

 

10 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

This is why drafting is so important

 

 

Yes.

 

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Paup 1995MVP]

21 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Exactly. Look at New Orleans who was $110 million over the cap easily getting under it and then making splash UFA signings too.

 

At the end of the day I'll trust Beane far more than some dork off the internet.

And they played the entire season with Andy Dalton as their starting QB, cementing Jamais Winston to the bench.  I would fire my head coach and anyone in the organization who agreed with Dennis Allen's strategy.  (I like Dennis Allen.  Sounds like a cool old school kind of a tough guy type of coach when he speaks.)  But my goodness you are not winning anything w Andy Dalton.  At least Winston gives you big play potential.  He is the black version of Fitzie.  Boom or bust.  400 yards passing.  4 TD's.  4 picks.  A fumble and a lot of excitement.

[78thealltimegreat]

I don’t think people get it the bills can get up to 60 million in cap apace with restructures and can easily recoup draft picks by trading out of the first round when you don’t have an immediate glaring need like other teams it’s pretty easy to do this 

[ColoradoBills]

21 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/buffalo-bills/  Been using this to keep an eye on things throughout the year.   Now that the -6 million overage is factored in its more like $42.5 million but you can get there by restructuring 12 or 13 contracts.  I dont know if they will want to pay that much money up front, really up to Pegula, but it can be done.

 

I would caution fans who are thinking Beane is going to restructure every possible contract in 2023.

Ther odds of that happening are extremely low.  Beane will do what he has been doing in the past, he will restructure as he needs it.

He is not going to free up every penny and then go on a shopping spree in FA.

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I would caution fans who are thinking Beane is going to restructure every possible contract in 2023.

Ther odds of that happening are extremely low.  Beane will do what he has been doing in the past, he will restructure as he needs it.

He is not going to free up every penny and then go on a shopping spree in FA.

Where in my post did I say that he should go on a shopping spree in free agency?   He needs to free up cap just to resign his own players, which is why I said he would need to restructure those contracts.  Otherwise you can say goodbye to both Poyer and Edmunds because without those restructures, or possibly trading Ed Oliver, you dont get those players back.  

[appoo]

37 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I don’t think people get it the bills can get up to 60 million in cap apace with restructures and can easily recoup draft picks by trading out of the first round when you don’t have an immediate glaring need like other teams it’s pretty easy to do this 

Bills have at least 2 glaring needs off the top of my head at CB1 and LG, and possibly RT as well. Not mention neither Hyde nor Poyer are under contract after this season

[BigAl2526]

The good news is Buffalo does not have to remake their whole roster.  I doubt they'll be able to re-sign Poyer.  I don't think there are a lot of other key veterans they need to re-sign.  They need to do some roster tweaking, but they can probably do most of what they want with the resources they have.

[ColoradoBills]

22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Where in my post did I say that he should go on a shopping spree in free agency?   He needs to free up cap just to resign his own players, which is why I said he would need to restructure those contracts.  Otherwise you can say goodbye to both Poyer and Edmunds because without those restructures, or possibly trading Ed Oliver, you dont get those players back.  

 

You didn't and I'm talking just in general.  Just wait until next spring when every FA that people will want to sign will be

followed by "the cap is meaningless".  

 

I didn't mean to insinuate anything.  I posted a reply because your detailed Spotrac link is a great place for fans to understand the system.

[nucci]

Beane always seems to be able to sign whomever he wants. 

[BillsVet]

22 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

That is a huge amount of cap space.  How did you come up with that number?

 

Clearly by making cuts to the fantasy roster.    

 

OBD gets praise for getting this team to be a perennial playoff team...but the harder work is sustaining that level of play.  Buffalo can go the route of GB and remain on that plateau or ascend to being a championship contender while working within the limits of paying a franchise QB.

 

The HC's vision for this franchise is under the microscope more now than ever.  He's the architect of how they build a roster and Beane gets those pieces.  Josh deserves better than what's he's been handed the past 2 seasons on offense.  This off-season should transition the franchise to one that builds around the franchise QB by deferring to offense.  

 

[78thealltimegreat]

48 minutes ago, appoo said:

Bills have at least 2 glaring needs off the top of my head at CB1 and LG, and possibly RT as well. Not mention neither Hyde nor Poyer are under contract after this season

Cb1? They just went corner unless you think Elam is a bust. And you can definitely get quality olinemen especially guard in round 2 

[thenorthremembers]

43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You didn't and I'm talking just in general.  Just wait until next spring when every FA that people will want to sign will be

followed by "the cap is meaningless".  

 

I didn't mean to insinuate anything.  I posted a reply because your detailed Spotrac link is a great place for fans to understand the system.

Understood.  I am sure there will be a bunch of go sign DJ Chark or JuJu threads in the Spring.   My hope is the board has seen enough of Beane to know they will resign their own and supplement the roster in free agency where possible.

[appoo]

7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Cb1? They just went corner unless you think Elam is a bust. And you can definitely get quality olinemen especially guard in round 2 

 

I'm not sure Elam has the instincts to be a CB1. I definitely think he's got a future as a starter in the League though. My concern is around Tre. If he didn't have a 22M dead cap hit there's a chance he could get cut because he simply doesn't have the explosiveness to be paid like a CB1, unless he continues to regain his pop this off season. 

 

But untill that happens, the Bills have a weakness at corner, made worse by Hamlin's loss. He struggled a bunch this year, but you could see signs of a pretty good strong safety with more experience, which would have made it easy to let Mycah go this off season and save a much needed 3M on the cap. Now they're going to have to eat a 10M cap hit for a 33 year old safety coming off a major neck injury. 

 

This is going to be, perhaps, Beane's most important, and difficult off season. 

46 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

WR2?… it’s the most glaring need on the roster… they have nothing behind Diggs.

 

WR2 is way down the list for me. You have Josh Allen, Diggs, Dawson Knox and an emerging RB in Cook...Davis, for all his troubles, is good enough for now.  Outside upgrading RT and filling LG (can't resign Saffold), wouldn't really touch the starting offense. Just not worth it in terms of opportunity cost elsewhere

[ColoradoBills]

14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Understood.  I am sure there will be a bunch of go sign DJ Chark or JuJu threads in the Spring.   My hope is the board has seen enough of Beane to know they will resign their own and supplement the roster in free agency where possible.

 

My hope for FA is that Beane can secure a couple of good players cheaply who want to come to Buffalo for the chance of the ring.

It's a powerful recruiting tool.

[Rocky Landing]

It's really too early to be fretting over offseason resources. We have needs, sure. But we don't have that many needs.  And the best asset we have in this regard is Brandon Beane, who has shown an incredible aptitude for moving around players, contracts, and numbers. Let's see where we stand after the playoffs are over. I have every bit of confidence in this regime to continue to build this team.

[78thealltimegreat]

2 hours ago, appoo said:

 

I'm not sure Elam has the instincts to be a CB1. I definitely think he's got a future as a starter in the League though. My concern is around Tre. If he didn't have a 22M dead cap hit there's a chance he could get cut because he simply doesn't have the explosiveness to be paid like a CB1, unless he continues to regain his pop this off season. 

 

But untill that happens, the Bills have a weakness at corner, made worse by Hamlin's loss. He struggled a bunch this year, but you could see signs of a pretty good strong safety with more experience, which would have made it easy to let Mycah go this off season and save a much needed 3M on the cap. Now they're going to have to eat a 10M cap hit for a 33 year old safety coming off a major neck injury. 

 

This is going to be, perhaps, Beane's most important, and difficult off season. 

 

WR2 is way down the list for me. You have Josh Allen, Diggs, Dawson Knox and an emerging RB in Cook...Davis, for all his troubles, is good enough for now.  Outside upgrading RT and filling LG (can't resign Saffold), wouldn't really touch the starting offense. Just not worth it in terms of opportunity cost elsewhere

More defense lol so what you’re saying is you have no faith in Brandon Beane to draft Cb since you want him to draft another cb 

[appoo]

10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

More defense lol so what you’re saying is you have no faith in Brandon Beane to draft Cb since you want him to draft another cb 

No, I want a defense that has a minimum of two corners who can play man or zone on the outside. With Tre's burst where it is right now, the Bills have 1

[78thealltimegreat]

2 minutes ago, appoo said:

No, I want a defense that has a minimum of two corners who can play man or zone on the outside. With Tre's burst where it is right now, the Bills have 1

Exactly so the corner he just drafted isn’t good enough for the system so you want him to draft another corner who may not be good enough when George Pickens could have been a Buffalo Bill right now 

[SCBills]

4 hours ago, appoo said:

Bills have at least 2 glaring needs off the top of my head at CB1 and LG, and possibly RT as well. Not mention neither Hyde nor Poyer are under contract after this season

CB1 is not a glaring need .. in fact, there is zero reason we should be drafting a corner. 
 

White, Elam, Benford and Jackson are all under contract .. the first 3 for multiple seasons beyond this year.  
 

LG is a need.  If a guy like O’Cyrus Torrence is there at our pick, just do it.  He could be a pro-bowl caliber player for the next decade at that position.  
 

WR2 is 1 or 1A in need along with the previously mentioned IOL. 

 

Need #3 is the position of whoever doesn’t come back between Edmunds and Poyer.  

[KHAN]

49 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

The Bills are a passing offense and have Stefan Diggs, a solid receiving option in Knox and literally JAGs… It would be great if they make Josh’s job easier instead of asking him to lead the team in both rushing and passing while also infront of a shotty offensive line. 
 

Another CB with Tre rebounding from an ACL tear and Elam just taken in the first round?… For a management group that continuously puts offense secondary?… come on man seriously? 

Agree that WR 1b and O-Line need to be a priority. Going in to year 6, you can't keep having Josh put his body on the line every game. What they can to do retain Edmunds, Oliver and Poyer will be interesting. Tre and Elam are going to have to be good next year or we have a problem. But I think they will be.