Big Turk Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Wow...some more in depth info regarding what actually happened from an "unknown" high ranking official on either the Bills or Bengals. My bet is the Bills. Just absolutely trashes the NFL and Troy Vincent and says Dawn Aponte, the NFL representative at the game "held the line hard" even as Vincent tried to force her to make them resume play... Also claimed they weren't going back out on the field to play even if the "Lord himself came down" and that the Bills and Bengals decided to stop playing that game not the NFL. I'm not surprised. NFL is the king of doing one thing and then trying to gloss over it and make it appear they were doing the opposite once it happens. All they care about is the "appearance" of doing the right thing, not actually doing it. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-vs-espn-over-whether-025927564.html Edited January 10, 2023 by Big Turk 6 5 10 3 5 Quote
ToGoGo Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Amazing article. Stuns me how some people can lie like that and live with themselves. 2 1 8 Quote
NewEra Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Pretty much what I though had happened. The nfl would never stamp themselves with this though. Just a terrible look. 3 8 Quote
BigDingus Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Didn't realize Troy Vincent was so disliked. So much for the idea that the NFLPA is looking out for the best interest of the players 🤨 3 2 2 Quote
Billznut Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Hopefully they won’t be able to determine who the source was, especially if it’s a Bills source, which I think most likely it was. Beane was standing directly behind McDermott when he was doing the phone call with Aponte and Zac Taylor in the tunnel when they kept showing video of that on MNF that night. I don’t want the Bills to have to fear retribution from the league or Vincent because of them doing the right thing that night when the league was clearly pushing otherwise. 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Didn't realize Troy Vincent was so disliked. So much for the idea that the NFLPA is looking out for the best interest of the players 🤨 I never understood why people thought he was liked. To go from being a union toeing guy and always at the forefront of player issues to now being on the opposite side playing like he has compassion? Dudes a fraud and it shows now. 6 Quote
BigDingus Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, boyst said: I never understood why people thought he was liked. To go from being a union toeing guy and always at the forefront of player issues to now being on the opposite side playing like he has compassion? Dudes a fraud and it shows now. Honestly had no clue how players viewed him. I figured if he held such high positions on both sides, he must be a well-respected/well-liked person. Obviously I was wrong lol Quote
Big Turk Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, boyst said: I never understood why people thought he was liked. To go from being a union toeing guy and always at the forefront of player issues to now being on the opposite side playing like he has compassion? Dudes a fraud and it shows now. It's kinda hard to justify how you could claim you believe one thing and fight hard for it to the other side and then switch sides to fight hard for something that is diametrically opposed to what his initial fight was for. Benedict Arnold or Judas comes to mind. Edited January 10, 2023 by Big Turk 2 2 Quote
transient Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, boyst said: I never understood why people thought he was liked. To go from being a union toeing guy and always at the forefront of player issues to now being on the opposite side playing like he has compassion? Dudes a fraud and it shows now. Hard to think someone who intentionally injured his own team’s rookie QB would now be capable of having the interest of the players in mind. 10 8 2 2 Quote
rusty shackleford Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It's kinda hard to justify how you could claim you believe one thing and fight hard for it to the other side and then switch sides to fight hard for something that is diametrically opposed to what his initial fight was for. Benedict Arnold or Judas comes to mind. Sounds like he would have a successful career in politics. 2 3 2 Quote
BigDingus Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, transient said: Hard to think someone who intentionally injured his own team’s rookie QB would now be capable of having the interest of the players in mind. Nuh uh! Mike Mularkey blamed it on Losman. Vincent would never try & injure someone 😉 Quote
BillnutinHouston Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Billznut said: Hopefully they won’t be able to determine who the source was, especially if it’s a Bills source, which I think most likely it was. I disagree. The Bengals reps were in the hallway also, and it's the Bengals who are most upset at the league's seeding proposal, thus (in my opinion) are the ones most likely to be sniping at the league at this point. 1 5 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Hey Troy, the truth will set you free! Quote
Last Guy on the Bench Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Billznut said: Hopefully they won’t be able to determine who the source was, especially if it’s a Bills source, which I think most likely it was. Beane was standing directly behind McDermott when he was doing the phone call with Aponte and Zac Taylor in the tunnel when they kept showing video of that on MNF that night. I don’t want the Bills to have to fear retribution from the league or Vincent because of them doing the right thing that night when the league was clearly pushing otherwise. Not saying it wasn't some Bills official or other, though I tend to doubt it, given the culture there. But that quote really doesn't have the vibe of Bean or McDermott anyway. I would be completely shocked if it were one of them. Can't see them sounding off to a reporter in that tone. Way out of character. 1 Quote
Governor Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Let’s not silly enough to put this all on Vincent. They obviously sent him out there to lie first thing the next morning. They spent the whole night in damage control. That’s why they went silent for hours. They knew they screwed up real real bad. Unfortunately, most fans are more than willing to peddle the league’s fibs. Edited January 10, 2023 by Governor 3 Quote
Gugny Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 As clear as it is that the NFL and Troylet Vincent are lying pieces of sh!t, they will walk away from this unscathed and laugh about it around a campfire someday. The NFL is the scummiest business in the world. You don't need to go any further than Joe Mixon and Deshaun Watson (and those are just the recent examples) to see that. I'll raise my hand as a guilty party ... but let's face it ... we'll all keep watching, no matter how scummy they are. 5 Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 the league is so SO lucky McD has dignity, and that Zac Taylor understands human decency. They both could not have handled this situation any better. the league office just can't get out of its own damn way. 1 5 1 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Not saying it wasn't some Bills official or other, though I tend to doubt it, given the culture there. But that quote really doesn't have the vibe of Bean or McDermott anyway. I would be completely shocked if it were one of them. Can't see them sounding off to a reporter in that tone. Way out of character. I actually could totally hear Beane saying a lot of those things. I at least think it’s a Bills official, based on the following quote specifically: "We felt confusion and nonsense more than pressure," the team official said. "They were still discussing things. In our mind there was nothing to be discussed. ... If they would have said, 'If you leave you're forfeiting the game,' we're still leaving." Leaving and forfeiting sounds to me like a Bills official, since they were the road team AND already behind. Plus, they’re the team who just watched one of their teammates get CPR on the field. 8 Quote
reddogblitz Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: As clear as it is that the NFL and Troylet Vincent are lying pieces of sh!t, they will walk away from this unscathed and laugh about it around a campfire someday. The NFL is the scummiest business in the world. You don't need to go any further than Joe Mixon and Deshaun Watson (and those are just the recent examples) to see that. I'll raise my hand as a guilty party ... but let's face it ... we'll all keep watching, no matter how scummy they are. If it weren't for football I would hate the NFL. 2 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: As clear as it is that the NFL and Troylet Vincent are lying pieces of sh!t, they will walk away from this unscathed and laugh about it around a campfire someday. The NFL is the scummiest business in the world. You don't need to go any further than Joe Mixon and Deshaun Watson (and those are just the recent examples) to see that. I'll raise my hand as a guilty party ... but let's face it ... we'll all keep watching, no matter how scummy they are. 1 1 Quote
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