We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[AlfaBill]

8 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Yep I agree with this. I’d bet the farm Tua’s playing. They’re putting him out there. 
 

Was thinking, is there any chance Bills D would let up if they have Tua lined up for a clean, but very hard hit?  Especially after what happened in Cincy, there could be some hesitancy about giving him a life altering concussion…

I know it sounds crazy.

I think when it comes to hitting the qb players met up already. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go more so against tua 

[TheBrownBear]

13 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

I think it’s snaps. He has played nearly double the snaps from last year. I think it has taken a toll on him considering how much and who they ask him to block. 

The guy is a 24 year old three year NFL vet.  It ain't because of too many snaps.  Now, he may still have lingering ankle issues or some other underlying injury that hasn't popped up on the weekly report that's negatively impacting his play, but I don't think it's "fatigue."

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

There’s a small chance he’s medically cleared and still doesn’t play.  That dolphins oline could be Swiss cheese depending on if armstead/shell play.  The re injury risk is pretty high if he’s medically cleared or not.  
 

im not sure if we’d ever find out he was medically cleared in that case though cuz their fans would probably go ballistic if they knew 

 

If he is cleared Miami will 100% play him IMO. Whether they should or not is a different matter.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Process said:

Post the bet slip showing you wagered on the dolphins +10.5 prior to 6:47pm on 1/10, and whatever amount you bet I will match with a donation to Hamlin's charity, up to $50. I'll post the receipt as well. 

Lol. It's ok if you dont believe me. I don't have anything to prove. 

[TheBrownBear]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Lol. It's ok if you dont believe me. I don't have anything to prove. 

Just post it and raise another $50 for Damar's charity. Seems simple enough.

[section122]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I just think it isn't entirely in their hands. The independant neurologist must clear him and given everything that happened in that first Bills game and the Damar incident (not a concussion obviously but general optics around player safety) there will be no risks taken. I think he is only getting cleared if he actually should be cleared. 

 

Now maybe be will be cleared. But at the moment he is not out there at practice so he is at best in stage 2 of the protocol. If he isn't at least in stage 3 by tomorrow which is "football specific exercise" then the chances of him being through stage 3, 4 and to stage 5 (where he is cleared by the club doctor and the independent neurologist) by Sunday is slim to none. 

 

Maybe someone has tipped them off that he is at stage 3 and will practice tomorrow. But he kinda needs to be or else it points pretty strongly towards him not playing.

 

I know it isnt the end all be all but I saw on reddit that he is already in stage 3 and was before the game against the jets.  I can't find anything definitive though.  

[WideNine]

5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Tua being that much better than bridgewater is exaggerated imo. They have different skill sets which gave tua a big edge early while there wasn’t much film on the new look dolphins offense but the diminishing returns were huge.  He’s accurate and he gets rid of the ball quick but teams wised up to where he likes to go with the football.  Bridgewater is better at going through reads and improvising when a play breaks down.  

 

tua is just always injured for tough defensive matchups which makes the total win/loss of the various qbs argument completely meaningless.  The bills and ravens defenses were absolutely decimated by injuries early in the year then tua got a long string of layup games.  

 

Bridgewater/Thompson started against NYJ X 2 and NE behind a very shoddy oline due to injuries.  the Vikings d was gettable and bridgewater moved the ball fine he just had a couple tough turnovers.  Vs cincy, bridgewater actually looked better than tua when he came in in the second half. So out of the 5 games tua missed, 3 were against great defenses,1 was against a good defense, and one was against a good team with a bad defense 
 

tua would’ve looked horrible also in the NYJ game last weekend.   I thought Thompson played pretty well considering.  No armstead or Brandon shell, no mostert, and tyreek hill and waddle were both far from 100% 

 

If we saw tua light up the jets once maybe the vibe would be different,  but he mostly ran up the score against terrible teams imo.  

 

I like Tua, and believe that there is an overall drop with his backups.

 

BUT there is also a very significant drop in completion rate when comparing Tua's throws on schedule with the middle open, and Tua forced to reset and throw off schedule and off platform to areas not normally in his read progressions.

 

Some say that applies to all QBs, but I get the sense that Allen is actually more comfortable when plays break down and he has to get creative on the move outside the pocket...

 

Their offense got a bit tougher for us to defend when they added more run balance, but for the most part we played our nickel personnel.

 

Folks have tried to jam Hill and Waddle to mess up the timing,, but Miami has adjusted by playing them off the line in bunch formations or giving them a full head of steam by motioning them.

 

We don't really have our DBs jam WRs.

 

 

There is not really a terrible team in the AFC East this year. They are all teams that can be competitive.

 

One game at a time - go Bills!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by WideNine

[Casey D]

Just now, section122 said:

 

I know it isnt the end all be all but I saw on reddit that he is already in stage 3 and was before the game against the jets.  I can't find anything definitive though.  

He's been in stage 3 for two weeks, but has not progressed or seen a football field in three weeks.

[Donuts and Doritos]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/is-tua-playing-sunday-curious-dolphins-vs-bills-line-movement-might-be-a-sign

[YattaOkasan]

18 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Some of us may be forgetting that the Bills win vs. the Dolphins in Buffalo was really a 7 point win. 

 

Motor took a strategic knee at the Miami four with an open path to the end zone to prevent a repeat of 13 seconds or HomeRunThrowback. 

 

I suspect he was coached up about that very situation.

Agree and is even bigger if we don’t have roughing the kicker

17 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

He actually has nearly 100 more snaps than Diggs, which is interesting, with his 50% catch to target ratio.

Yup. I make the analogy of Diggs is the Ferrari and Davis is the commuter car. You ask the commuter to do things you wouldn’t ask of the Ferrari. Also I don’t care how old you are NFL snaps take a toll. So to double them is not a small thing. 

[nucci]

1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/is-tua-playing-sunday-curious-dolphins-vs-bills-line-movement-might-be-a-sign

or it might not

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

I know it isnt the end all be all but I saw on reddit that he is already in stage 3 and was before the game against the jets.  I can't find anything definitive though.  

 

Okay. Well that gives him more chance. 

[Playoffs?]

3 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/is-tua-playing-sunday-curious-dolphins-vs-bills-line-movement-might-be-a-sign

I believe this.. especially if the rumor is true that the bets have actually been on Buffalo.   I’ve said it since Sunday… no way Miami is not putting Tua on the field, whether he’s truly ready or not. They haven’t won a playoff game in like 20 years.  They’ll do anything they can. 

[gtw3]

Playoff Josh + Dolphins game Josh = Postseason Passing Records in Jeopardy

 

It's simple math

[Freddie's Dead]

The Dolphins QB as a young man:

 

[section122]

7 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

I believe this.. especially if the rumor is true that the bets have actually been on Buffalo.   I’ve said it since Sunday… no way Miami is not putting Tua on the field, whether he’s truly ready or not. They haven’t won a playoff game in like 20 years.  They’ll do anything they can. 

 

Its not a rumor draftkings posts the stats for each game.  To throw more gas on the fire, stephen ross used to be part owner of action network that was linked above.

[co_springs_billsfan]

15 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/is-tua-playing-sunday-curious-dolphins-vs-bills-line-movement-might-be-a-sign

The fix is in

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, section122 said:

 

Its not a rumor draftkings posts the stats for each game.  To throw more gas on the fire, stephen ross used to be part owner of action network that was linked above.

Interesting. 
Well… get to work, Bills.  Game on!  
The Fins are bringing up their A team.  Smoke ‘em.

[Joe Ferguson]

If Bills were smart, they would bench Devin Singletary in the playoffs to avoid the fumbles.

[VaMilBill]

Just now, Joe Ferguson said:

If Bills were smart, they would bench Devin Singletary in the playoffs to avoid the fumbles.

Or they would start Cook because he’s clearly the better back. Singletary’s only advantage over Jimbo is his pass blocking.