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3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The current odds on the money line (team wins with no points needed) is Dolphins +425.  So if someone bets $20 they get back $105. 

I will feel dirty (not to mention stupid) betting against the Bills. I mean, what sort of fan thinks "I know the Bills will win but if they lose, I might as well make some money with it"? 

 

 

(Yea, that was a rhetorical question, you filthy gambling traitors)

 

 

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I wonder which practice squad WR gets elevated for this game.

It's hard to believe they're going to elevate both, and it's equally hard to believe that they're suddenly going to take McKenzie or Davis out of the gameplan.

So is it a Beasley game or a Smoke game?

Or do they throw a curveball, bench the rookie Shakir, and elevate both?

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1 minute ago, Logic said:

I wonder which practice squad WR gets elevated for this game.

It's hard to believe they're going to elevate both, and it's equally hard to believe that they're suddenly going to take McKenzie or Davis out of the gameplan.

So is it a Beasley game or a Smoke game?

Or do they throw a curveball, bench the rookie Shakir, and elevate both?


 

Diggs

Brown

Beasley

Rotate in Davis, McKenzie, Shakir 

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Just now, Fan in Chicago said:

I will feel dirty (not to mention stupid) betting against the Bills. I mean, what sort of fan thinks "I know the Bills will win but if they lose, I might as well make some money with it"? 

 

 

(Yea, that was a rhetorical question, you filthy gambling traitors)

 

 

I've only bet against the Bills once-I knew the Bills would be resting their starters in the 2019 season finale against the Jets and bet the Jets on the money line in a game the Bills were favored.  

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4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


 

Diggs

Brown

Beasley

Rotate in Davis, McKenzie, Shakir 


My point is that they have not been activating six WRs on game days this season. Could they? Of course. Will they? I'm not so sure.

Further, I don't think they're going to suddenly pivot from Davis to Brown as WR2 in the playoffs, especially after Dorsey's effusive praise of Davis this week.

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It's been a little different this week regarding Tua.   Not as much doom and gloom from National media demanding that Tua stays out for the rest of the season and contemplate retirement (as was the case in recent weeks).   

 

I think there's some wishful thinking amongst talking heads and neutral fans that Tua gets cleared to play and Miami can play close with Buffalo.  At the end of the day people want to see competitive football games.  

 

I personally don't think Mike McDaniel will have anything to do with clearing Tua.  They are going to defer to doctors..but there could be some organizational pressure to get him in there.

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:


My point is that they have not been activating six WRs on game days this season. Could they? Of course. Will they? I'm not so sure.

Further, I don't think they're going to suddenly pivot from Davis to Brown as WR2 in the playoffs, especially after Dorsey's effusive praise of Davis this week.


Fair point on Davis.  They can elevate anyone and I could see having 6 WR's or sitting McKenzie/Shakir

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46 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

WOWY — With Or Without You. 
From The Ringer, on Miami and Tua:

 

“Miami’s only win in a game without him came against Joe Flacco and the Jets in Week 18. Tagovailoa also finished the season third in EPA per dropback (0.18), behind Mahomes and Allen; backups Teddy Bridgewater and Skylar Thompson averaged minus-0.03 and minus-0.27 EPA per dropback, respectively.”

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/1/10/23547484/nfl-power-rankings-wild-card-playoffs-eagles-bills-chiefs-bengals


In a futile attempt to prevent “Tua is garbage” responses: No, he is not Josh Allen. We all know that. 
 

But he is essential to this Dolphins offense. Teddy Bridgewater is a better than average backup, but they’ve been terrible with him. Skyler Thompson actually is replacement level garbage. If Tua is in there (and stays in there) and doesn’t show any immediate ill effects of the latest concussion, this will be a game. If he’s out, it’s a blowout. 

Tua being that much better than bridgewater is exaggerated imo. They have different skill sets which gave tua a big edge early while there wasn’t much film on the new look dolphins offense but the diminishing returns were huge.  He’s accurate and he gets rid of the ball quick but teams wised up to where he likes to go with the football.  Bridgewater is better at going through reads and improvising when a play breaks down.  

 

tua is just always injured for tough defensive matchups which makes the total win/loss of the various qbs argument completely meaningless.  The bills and ravens defenses were absolutely decimated by injuries early in the year then tua got a long string of layup games.  

 

Bridgewater/Thompson started against NYJ X 2 and NE behind a very shoddy oline due to injuries.  the Vikings d was gettable and bridgewater moved the ball fine he just had a couple tough turnovers.  Vs cincy, bridgewater actually looked better than tua when he came in in the second half. So out of the 5 games tua missed, 3 were against great defenses,1 was against a good defense, and one was against a good team with a bad defense 
 

tua would’ve looked horrible also in the NYJ game last weekend.   I thought Thompson played pretty well considering.  No armstead or Brandon shell, no mostert, and tyreek hill and waddle were both far from 100% 

 

If we saw tua light up the jets once maybe the vibe would be different,  but he mostly ran up the score against terrible teams imo.  

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40 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

He had a herniated disc in his neck?  There’s enormous variability in how long recovery could take with or without surgery.  From life experience (obviously I’m not a professional football player lol) 6-9 months sounds outrageously overly cautious if you’re strictly accounting for physical healing.  The physical recovery only takes about 2-3 months.  
 

could be mental things at work for why it usually takes players longer which are entirely on him.  I don’t think he’d be working out at practice if he didn’t see it as at all possible 

 

 

 

Its different for a football player that gives and takes hits.  If he had fusion and cages put in, the bone takes a long time to heal.  This isnt mental thats holding him back.  Its the idea of him being hit while the bone is still not fully healed.  Its different than working in a factory or whatever normal day to day jobs that a normal person does.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Logic said:


My point is that they have not been activating six WRs on game days this season. Could they? Of course. Will they? I'm not so sure.

Further, I don't think they're going to suddenly pivot from Davis to Brown as WR2 in the playoffs, especially after Dorsey's effusive praise of Davis this week.

 

Yeah, I asked the same question many pages back.  Im curious who they callup and activate as well. 

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3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Its different for a football player that gives and takes hits.  If he had fusion and cages put in, the bone takes a long time to heal.  This isnt mental thats holding him back.  Its the idea of him being hit while the bone is still not fully healed.  Its different than working in a factory or whatever normal day to day jobs that a normal person does.

 

 

 

I'm sure he didn't have a fusion.  I doubt he would be doing any sort of light drills at practice with that level of surgery.  

I healed from my herniated disc in my back in 2 months and I never went to physical therapy. 

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10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Its different from a football player that gives and takes hits.  If he had fusion or cages put in, the bone takes a long time to heal.  This isnt mental thats holding him back.  Its the idea of him being hit while the bone is still not fully healed.  Its different than working in a factory or whatever normal day to day jobs that a normal person does.

Yea that’s true…i goofed on when he had the surgery too so I’d agree it’s extremely unlikely.  Figured it was closer to the bills titans game but it was about a month later.  
 

4 months I could see it being in that ‘fully healed but risky to return’ window where a player might go for it since it’s the playoffs (assuming the medical staff clears them and depending on the severity of the injury).  But 3 months just seems too risky 
 

 

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6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Its different for a football player that gives and takes hits.  If he had fusion and cages put in, the bone takes a long time to heal.  This isnt mental thats holding him back.  Its the idea of him being hit while the bone is still not fully healed.  Its different than working in a factory or whatever normal day to day jobs that a normal person does.

 

 

 

Yeah, I asked the same question many pages back.  Im curious who they callup and activate as well. 

I’m sure someone knows the answer to this but since all that’s left now are the 14 playoff teams, are the teams not able to ‘activate’ all of their practice squad players? If not, they should be! How cool would it be for some of those players to be in uniform during an NFL playoff game? 

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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm sure he didn't have a fusion.  I doubt he would be doing any sort of light drills at practice with that level of surgery.  

I healed from my herniated disc in my back in 2 months and I never went to physical therapy. 

 

Its never been stated what exact surgery he had but the speculation is he had ACDF surgery which is what I and my wife both had.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-safety-micah-hyde-surgery-timetable-jordan-poyer-tredavious-white

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’m sure someone knows the answer to this but since all that’s left now are the 14 playoff teams, are the teams not able to ‘activate’ all of their practice squad players? If not, they should be! How cool would it be for some of those players to be in uniform during an NFL playoff game? 

 

Im not sure how many they can call up.  They can still only have the same active on gameday though.  Usually its only 5 receivers for the Bills.  They may go with 6 who knows.

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