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41 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Most  people who think Tua is starting haven't thought it out much. 

 

Of course it's a huge risk for Tua, but the real reason is the incredible risk it would be to the league.  If Tua gets Mike Whitishly pulverized and goes unconcious from it, or even has to leave the game, the whole wild card weekend of playoffs is overshadowed.  The league can not have another D Hamlin type event during wild card weekend.

 

Miami will get a discreet phone call and publicly announce how they are going to be cautious.  The alternative of risking tens/hundreds of millions to the league in terms of goodwill won't be allowed.  Miami has already been exposed for working outside the rules, the league shouldn't let them risk it.

 

Oh, I get it…but McNerd doesn’t care.

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35 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

I do want to make clear that I don't think it will make a damn bit of difference whether Tua plays.  We're going to stomp the ***** out of them whoever plays QB and I'm not "afraid" of Tua playing -- particularly when he hasn't even engaged in football activity in weeks and hasn't beaten a team with a winning record since (checks notes) before Halloween.

 

I'm just saying the league is keenly aware of its image and of what could happen if Tua plays and suffers another concussion... or worse.

everyone will be watching Bills playoff games.  If Tua suffers 4th concussion, days after cleared to play after last concussion- holy *****, will the NFL be exposed as not giving a ***** about any NFL player, its all about $

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44 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

I'm not sure what mechanism Goodell had for inventing the new AFC playoff structure, except "best interests of the league," which empowers the Commissioner to do a lot of things.  Tua not playing on Sunday seems to me to be very much in the league's best interest, given the possible consequences.  

 

But you're probably right that the league is very much hoping that the Dolphins and the doctors who examine him will "do the right thing" so they don't have to step in.

Well we know he's apparently allowed to "persuade" players to go to a team that they weren't interested in considering the Michael Vick story.

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Prediction :) Goodell quietly steps in Wednesday:

"January 11, 2023:  The NFPLA in conjunction with the league office. Using an abundance of caution, the team physicians and independent neurological experts have recommended Tua Tagovailo remain in concussion protocol"   Boy, it would be so ugly from so many angles, if he got hurt.

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1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:


I wonder if he might be at the game? Or at least record a video for the fans which is played on the screen?

i cant imagine any reason they wouldnt.

 

maybeeeeeeee you have a video on the ready, and in 2nd half in a close game you play it, and if not needed, save it for 2nd or AFCCG until needed. i understand it might not be as potent for the players that have seen and talked to him, and might again.... but the fans havent. theyll go bananas and also help fill the teams tank lol  id bet theyve had atlest discussed how to strategically use a video like that best

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Talking about "flipping a switch" is just nonsense that sports fans invent and then discuss.


It's not a part of reality, just like "trap games", "momentum", and tons of other commonly discussed sports topics.

 

These guys are pros; when the game starts they go out and try to play their best. Some games go better than others.


No one is coasting; no one is "saving the good plays for the playoffs," and no one is pressing harder on the accelerator in a playoff game.

 

We just have to hope that it all comes together in the right way for a few games, and we'll be back to the SB.

 

Luck is a real thing, as are injuries.  Let's hope both of those are on our side.

 

 

As a human i agree.

As a bills fan whos 3 years playoff stress hasnt been caloussed yet HOW - DARE - YOU!

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1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Are you talking about directly after? Or something else since then i missed? Also, out of curiosity, what exactly was the symptom you're referring to? I saw him crying, but seems like everyone was as well? Just curious

 

Concussion protocal isnt something you can fake your way through.  Aside from teams fudging things, the only way to beat it is to throw off your baseline test before the season starts.  Theres some type of vitals test involved you cant talk your way around

After the game he (Tre) talked about the week being a sh!tshow, think struggle to rest (talked about a 3am text), being super close being in that DB room, and seeing Damar collapse every time he closed his eyes. 

 

I'm not saying he shouldn't play, because every human deals with this kind of stuff differently, and for some playing might be best.  But I hope he's not feeling, not given, pressure to play regardless of his mental state. If he needs to be away from the game for awhile so he can climb back down from that state, I'd hope he's afforded that. 

 

Ultimately, being human and being treated as a human with emotions, is more important than the playoffs and SB

1 hour ago, BRH said:

 

I do want to make clear that I don't think it will make a damn bit of difference whether Tua plays.  We're going to stomp the ***** out of them whoever plays QB and I'm not "afraid" of Tua playing -- particularly when he hasn't even engaged in football activity in weeks and hasn't beaten a team with a winning record since (checks notes) before Halloween.

 

I'm just saying the league is keenly aware of its image and of what could happen if Tua plays and suffers another concussion... or worse.

For me, he's kind of in the same boat as Mitch Morse. I wish both of them would retire rich, and with whatever health they currently have. 6 concussions over a career us really scary. 3 in one season is terrifying

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4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

McKenzie

 

You really think so or just hope so?

10 minutes ago, KHAN said:

McNerd said he wasn't cleared for non contact throwing today, for whatever that's worth.

 

Day off usually anyways.  Probably Wednesday is when we will have a good feel for it.

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2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

No football activity on a Monday this many days into the protocol means he is in rough shape.  If he was going to play this weekend they would have put him in the non-contact jersey by now.  

It doesn't matter who they play at QB. Bills are going to destroy Miami.  

Go ahead and play him with a broken thumb. Then force two fumbles.

 

Um, there is normally no football activity on Monday for guys who did not play. 

 

The most football activity there is for anyone is "corrections" of mistakes and miscues, done in shells, for players who played the previous game.

Then Tuesday is a normal "NFL Day Off".  Players may get medical treatment, do a light lift or "recovery" aerobics.

 

Not until Wednesday will we know whether or not Tua is participating in practice or any football activities. 

But not participating M or T means little.

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Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

He is still in stage one so correct.  Tua has zero practice.

It'll be interesting to see how he plays if he does. I can't (off the top of my head) remember the last starting qb who was out that long and came back and played good. I'm sire it's happened, just can't think of any

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