BADOLBILZ Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Einstein said: I think the biggest change with Gabe Davis this year is that NFL defenses are being allowed to be more physical with receivers this season. He's always had rather hard hands........but for whatever reason he not only can't win contested catch situations but also just rough play before he breaks open leaves him unable to re-focus himself and catch the football. I do think the increased physicality allowed in the secondary was a reaction by ownership to receivers with less than full WR1 skillsets like Davis being allowed to look like studs in the stat ledger by illegal contact/holding/PI penalties. WR2's and WR3's putting up big numbers and getting paid like WR1's is bad for payroll control. 2 Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Bills have to be looking at the Claypool trade and wondering if they could pull it off too. I think its possible with the wr market the way it is. Gabe has more than returned on investment, but he has been given ample time and shown he's not a wr2. I doubt they could get more than a late 2nd but to get the production we've got from Gabe and then trade him for a 2nd would make beane look even more like a genius. 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 He’s the only WR we have with any size. Take him away and we’re back to the 2006-2007 Smurf Bills that caused them to take James Hardy. 1 Quote
colin Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 40 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: He’s the only WR we have with any size. Take him away and we’re back to the 2006-2007 Smurf Bills that caused them to take James Hardy. gosh those teams blew. hardy was a lazy undeveloped player who's entire life went down the drain quickly too. factory of sadness years. we need some kind of change up WR2, big, strong, fast, something that stands out. GD i honestly thought would break out and be a star, but he's just not that good. Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Trying to find the Contested Rate Catch and wondering what that entails. Yes he had one vs. Pitt, but can't remember another where he won a 50/50 ball or fought off a defender. Quote
stlbills13 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I'm hoping that Davis is still a little banged up and that Allen's elbow took away some other chances he had this year and that we can extend Gabe on an extremely affordable deal and he blows up next year when everyone is healthy and all of a sudden we have a stud #2 WR on a #3 WR deal. Back as I come back to reality, I just hope he scares the Chiefs and Bengals this postseason and Diggs, Knox, etc dominate underneath Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 50/50 like the chance of him dropping the ball Quote
CheshireCT Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 He caught everything thrown his way his first two seasons. He’s slumping for some reason. He can still turn it around, but if if his contract is up, it’s a cheap extension. Quote
T master Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Given the drops he's had I think Beane could use that to his advantage but if he's looking for stupid money he may not be here a long with quite a few others next season will be a totally different team . Quote
Doc Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 The good thing is he's under contract for the 2023 season so no decision has to be made right now. I say draft his replacement this coming draft and see what happens with Davis in the 2023 season. Quote
Bruffalo Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 He's been frustrating to watch because we've seen him better. He might just be a high end WR3/4 and not good enough to be a 2. Give me Jakobi Myers or Gallup next season and we'll probably see Davis flourish because of it. Quote
Ramza86 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I mean if you plan on keeping him and you believe his is better than his showing this year, nows the time to offer a contract while hes on a down. Quote
SCBills Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 10:34 PM, Solomon Grundy said: Do we REALLY know what we have in Elam?? Limited action throughout the season Up until this year, I had full faith and trust in how our staff handles the secondary. They could literally do whatever they want and I'd be like.. ok, you know best. This year... I've lost some of that faith. From a fan's point of view, the musical chairs at CB has been absolutely bizarre. How anyone could make any judgment on what Kaiir Elam is, is beyond me. The mistake he made in playing the ball last week should have been mistakes made earlier in the year, with time to learn from.. as rookies do. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I wouldn't be all that surprised if he's a healthy scratch next week, unless they use like only for a decoy. Quote
DCOrange Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I still wish we had brought in more outside help and played Davis as more of a big slot. He was used in the slot on like 25-30% of his snaps the last two years but it's where 50+% of his production came from if I remember correctly from when I had a PFF trial, not to mention how helpful his run blocking was in the slot. I don't really get why we decided to build the team around almost exclusively using him out wide this year. Feels like a miscalculation, not to mention we obviously really struggled to find a good slot option either. 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 1:33 PM, Alphadawg7 said: He isn’t worth the investment. I’d rather draft his replacement this year than pay him any where near what he will get on the open market. And this is from someone who thought he was going to have a big year. But he has shown me he is a low end number 2 WR probably better suited as a 3rd WR. His drops, lack of awareness at times, bad feet, and lack of consistently getting open has all just been too much this year to consider paying him like a #2 WR. Yep, I think we need to draft WR and OL, so it might as well be with the expectation that it's Davis' replacement. Maybe that even lights a fire under him, who knows. This draft should be all about getting weapons and protection for the face of the franchise. 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I still wish we had brought in more outside help and played Davis as more of a big slot. He was used in the slot on like 25-30% of his snaps the last two years but it's where 50+% of his production came from if I remember correctly from when I had a PFF trial, not to mention how helpful his run blocking was in the slot. I don't really get why we decided to build the team around almost exclusively using him out wide this year. Feels like a miscalculation, not to mention we obviously really struggled to find a good slot option either. They did: John Brown. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I still wish we had brought in more outside help and played Davis as more of a big slot. He was used in the slot on like 25-30% of his snaps the last two years but it's where 50+% of his production came from if I remember correctly from when I had a PFF trial, not to mention how helpful his run blocking was in the slot. I don't really get why we decided to build the team around almost exclusively using him out wide this year. Feels like a miscalculation, not to mention we obviously really struggled to find a good slot option either. I wonder/hope that Brown gave them some confidence to roll out packages with Diggs & Brown outside, with Davis in the slot. Quote
Pabstblueribbon Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 35 minutes ago, uticaclub said: I wouldn't be all that surprised if he's a healthy scratch next week, unless they use like only for a decoy. I will be severely disappointed if this is the case. Imo it's more likely McKenzie gets benched and we roll with Beasley/Shakir in the slot and Diggs/Davis/Smoke on the outside. 1 Quote
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