Locomark Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) The events of this week have enhanced and reinforced our solid reputation with players and agents around the league about the quality of the Bills organization and our family atmosphere. It also emphasized player health and our staff and ownership commitment to such. Add this to our Super Bowl window and we should be able to score even more bargain FAs in coming years. The only way we could screw up this good will is if we somehow botch the Poyer situation at year end. My screen name was created many years ago when the Bills were driving me crazy due to their front office ineptitude. They are certainly a standard bearer for this league now. I have extreme gratitude that the only thing I am crazy now about is for winning. Edited January 8, 2023 by Locomark 3 Quote
ArtVandalay Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 What do you mean botch Poyer? He's 31 soon to be 32 year player coming off an injury riddled year seeking a massive payday. Hard to commit big dollars to an old injured player. Sorry but 32 is ancient in the NFL especially for a defensive back where foot speed is paramount. Hard to pay big money for two safties given all the other paydays in the roster. Our secondary is soaking up a massive amount of payroll with Allen's extension kicking in next year and his cap number balloons to $40MM... fans aren't used to carrying that large of a contract but it means you can't sign everyone like when we never had a QB deal on the books like that. Diggs jumps to $20MM next year, plus Von Miller, etc. 2 2 2 Quote
Einstein Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 I felt the same way a few days ago but it seems the tide may be equaling out a bit. Seeing some negative articles now about how the Bills didn’t play Cinci on Wednesday or whatever. 1 1 1 Quote
T master Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 I agree Buffalo is now a destination for FA especially after this week & the Bills showing how much they care about their players . The Poyer situation could be bad if the Bills would make him a terrible deal but given his injuries this season & his availability i think it will impact what he will want in his contract so i think he could be gone anyway . Unless of course he has any loyalty to the Bills for how they have worked with brining his career along to this point but that being said it could be much easier to replace him if he does think the offer he gets from Beane isn't up to his expectations . I hope he does come back so him & Hyde can finish up here together but it is the new NFL where money is the driving factor & if another team comes up with a wheel barrel load of money we may see another player in his place . Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Einstein said: I felt the same way a few days ago but it seems the tide may be equaling out a bit. Seeing some negative articles now about how the Bills didn’t play Cinci on Wednesday or whatever. Lol, I assure you the players don’t give 2 s**ts about those articles by people trying to get clicks and reads. The biggest issue is we won’t have cap space to bring many people to Buffalo despite a lot of players may want to come here. Von Miller contract coupled with Allens deal kicking in already and guys like Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver, Singletary having major contract decisions to make are going to keep us from being very aggressive in the free agent pools. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 I love me some Poyer. Great S. But DAYM we need speed on the back end. We keep Hyde, my guess is Poyer is replaced with a second rounder with speed. Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, I assure you the players don’t give 2 s**ts about those articles by people trying to get clicks and reads. The biggest issue is we won’t have cap space to bring many people to Buffalo despite a lot of players may want to come here. Von Miller contract coupled with Allens deal kicking in already and guys like Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver, Singletary having major contract decisions to make are going to keep us from being very aggressive in the free agent pools. Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver… I’m guessing only 1 of 3 gets a new contract with the Bills. Just not enough money under the cap for all 3, and probably not even enough for 2 of them. I know McD(and his love of CB’s and DL) would disagree, but as much FA money and draft capital needs to go towards the OL and WR positions…along with S(depending on what happens with Hyde, Poyer & Hamlin). 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: I love me some Poyer. Great S. But DAYM we need speed on the back end. We keep Hyde, my guess is Poyer is replaced with a second rounder with speed. Bills with Poyer are undefeated. Poyer is All Pro. Poyer is warrior, who has played great, despite playing with a torn meniscus and extremely swollen elbow. Poyer is key component of Bills D. 1 1 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 Players want to get paid and they want to win. Some prioritize one over the over. Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Pete said: Bills with Poyer are undefeated. Poyer is All Pro. Poyer is warrior, who has played great, despite playing with a torn meniscus and extremely swollen elbow. Poyer is key component of Bills D. playing with the torn meniscus rather than opting for surgery and being ready for the start of 2023 could cost Poyer a lot of money. Big tip of my cap to him being all in for a championship. 6 Quote
RiotAct Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 @Locomark time for a change in screen name, then! Maybe “Contentmark”? Quote
Manther Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: playing with the torn meniscus rather than opting for surgery and being ready for the start of 2023 could cost Poyer a lot of money. Big tip of my cap to him being all in for a championship. Poyer playing on a torn Meniscus and bad elbow is playing for his team and not a new contract. Poyer played with bad ribs and was not cleared to fly earlier in the year too. He is dedicated to his team and tough as nails! The Meniscus will heal and won't be a problem with future contracts. You don't need a Meniscus. It is just a shock absorber for your knee. It is just a matter of pain and pain tolerance. A partially torn Meniscus is more painful than a complete tear or maybe that is the ACL. The elbow could cause problems for Poyer and future contracts and will see what happens at seasons end regarding the next step with his elbow. I think the Bills will pay Poyer. 1 Quote
Kiva Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Hopefully this pity culture skyrockets us to the Super Bowl with favorable calls. I don’t think it has the legs to last into the off-season. Edited January 8, 2023 by Kiva 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 who has not laid awake for days on end worrying how badly the Bills culture will suffer the non-resigning of Poyer? 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: I felt the same way a few days ago but it seems the tide may be equaling out a bit. Seeing some negative articles now about how the Bills didn’t play Cinci on Wednesday or whatever. Have those articles quoted players? Not likely. Players don't like Thursday games as too short a week, so can't believe any player would think the Bills should have played Wednesday. As for the original post, I do agree with the theme that this could/should help in FA pursuit. Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, Pete said: Bills with Poyer are undefeated. Poyer is All Pro. Poyer is warrior, who has played great, despite playing with a torn meniscus and extremely swollen elbow. Poyer is key component of Bills D. 100% agree with everything you said. I am also saying there is a high chance, he is not with the team next year. is what it is. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Have those articles quoted players? Yes. Several of them. Quote
Beast Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Einstein said: I felt the same way a few days ago but it seems the tide may be equaling out a bit. Seeing some negative articles now about how the Bills didn’t play Cinci on Wednesday or whatever. Could you post a link to one of those negative articles? Because I haven’t seen anything like that at all. Edited January 8, 2023 by Beast 2 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said: What do you mean botch Poyer? He's 31 soon to be 32 year player coming off an injury riddled year seeking a massive payday. Hard to commit big dollars to an old injured player. Sorry but 32 is ancient in the NFL especially for a defensive back where foot speed is paramount. Hard to pay big money for two safties given all the other paydays in the roster. Our secondary is soaking up a massive amount of payroll with Allen's extension kicking in next year and his cap number balloons to $40MM... fans aren't used to carrying that large of a contract but it means you can't sign everyone like when we never had a QB deal on the books like that. Diggs jumps to $20MM next year, plus Von Miller, etc. They don’t have to devote many years on a contract. Sign him for next year with a NICE bonus and make the contract incentive laden. Poyer absolutely has to be a Bill next season. IMO 1 Quote
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