NFL Week #18 - Patriots* @ Bills - Post Game Thread

[DuckyBoys]

I'm of the mindest that Davis is a jag playing with a stud qb.  That KC game seems eons ago.  More disappointing is the D line  Bills expended a lot o draft f capital and dress a host of them to get the little results they get most weeks .  Hoping some other guys continue to get opportunities  John Brown can still get behind a defense and Cook seems like a offensive explosion waiting to happen.  If the Bills stop shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers/bonehead mistakes I think they can beat any team  Would like to see Frazier employ more stunts/twists on obvious pass downs  Its clear the Bills lack D linemen than can win consistently.  On to a threematch with the Fish

[WideNine]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It was a LB and there is no rule saying he has to look back for the ball; he was playing the receivers hands, which is legal if you're not too early.

 

Agree.

 

It was dumb to throw it into triple coverage.

 

Jones did that twice, so of course it looks like a mess of hands and bodies going for the breakup or the ball.

 

 

[Hsker4life]

2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Not a penalty when QB is in pocket. 

I think the opposite is true. It’s a penalty when the QB is in the pocket.

 

Edit: My bad, thought you were talking about the missed low tackle on JA

Edited January 9, 2023 by Hsker4life

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, balln said:

Really ?!!?! Why- my dad was saying something like I bet you can horse collar in pocket. That makes no sense….

Idk but that's the way the rule is written 

1 minute ago, Hsker4life said:

I think the opposite is true. It’s a penalty when the QB is in the pocket.

Look up the rule

 

https://twitter.com/GeneSteratore/status/1175827623064285184?s=20&t=jkraOHfUs2O6ox4QB06VMw

Edited January 9, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos

[YoloinOhio]

Unreal 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, BRH said:

There was a play where Mac slid and got hit by two Bills.  No flag.  Mac got up and said something to the ref as he walked past.  He knows his reputation isn’t doing him any favors. 

 

I thought he slid late and both guys laid off him even though they made some contact.

I was more worried about a flag flying at Taron Johnson for going high when he stuck a defenseless receiver 

[clayboy54]

15 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Think he’s talking about to the Milano face guarding penalty

There is no such thing as faceguarding in the NFL. You can argue for defensive PI, but you can’t plead faceguarding. 

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Why can't Smoke play slot? 

In our current circumstances, Smoke needs to be our #2, and Davis our 2b/3, with Beasley, McKenzie, and Shakir doing slot/breather duty for our main guys, jmo…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Hsker4life]

3 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Idk but that's the way the rule is written 

Look up the rule

 

https://twitter.com/GeneSteratore/status/1175827623064285184?s=20&t=jkraOHfUs2O6ox4QB06VMw

I clarified I thought you were talking about the missed roughing call when JA was tackled low. 

[BRH]

I think the officials were caught up in the emotion of the game, honestly.  It wasn’t a normal 1 pm Sunday game, that’s for sure.  
 

The facemask in 1Q and especially the hit below the knees on the INT were infuriating.  I’m fairly confident the league will point those out - the Bills certainly will - and next week we may see it affect how the game is called.  At least I hope so. 

[PatsFanNH]

3 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Agree.

 

It was dumb to throw it into triple coverage.

 

Jones did that twice, so of course it looks like a mess of hands and bodies going for the breakup or the ball.

 

 

Huh? It was 1 on 1 and was actually under thrown if the LB turned and looked he picks it.. lol

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I thought he slid late and both guys laid off him even though they made some contact.

I was more worried about a flag flying at Taron Johnson for going high when he stuck a defenseless receiver 

Same. He was smacking people today. I guess he took getting manhandled last week personally. Because he wasn't getting pushed around today

[VaMilBill]

2 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

There is no such thing as faceguarding in the NFL. You can argue for defensive PI, but you can’t plead faceguarding. 

I understand that. But that’s the best, most concise description of that play IMO 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

15 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Be that as it may, they made plays today. How they’ve done previously or how they’ll do in the future is not relevant to the point I’m making about their performance today. 

Okay 

[K-9]

7 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Not a penalty when QB is in pocket. 

That is not correct. See paragraph e. in the attached:

 

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/roughing-the-passer/

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

That is not correct. See paragraph e. in the attached:

 

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/roughing-the-passer/

 

Try again. Horse collar is not a penalty when the QB is in the pocket. 

 

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/horse-collar/

Edited January 9, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos
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[Simon]

1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Same. He was smacking people today. I guess he took getting manhandled last week personally. Because he wasn't getting pushed around today

 

That is an excellent take.

[Protocal69]

4 hours ago, daz28 said:

Did cheetah come back?

 

[K-9]

Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:

Try again. Horse collar is not a penalty when the QB is in the pocket. 

I wasn’t referring to a horse collar. I was referring to hitting the knees which was mentioned in the post you corrected. Perhaps you can try again.

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

He was in for a few plays after. His only run was a 1 yard loss.

Curiously he averaged more yards per carry than Cook from what I saw on Bills.com,