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1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

The days of the Bills taking scraps off of everyone else's trash heaps are thankfully behind us.  No more Reggie Bush, Shawne Merriman, AJ McCarron, Mario Williams, Vince Young, Matt Leinert or other has-beens or never-weres.

Now Mario Williams played good. 

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I'm not sure Clowney is currently that much better than Espenesa and if what the ESPN article says is true and he picks and chooses when he feels like playing he's a coaching nightmare and a little to diva for my liking.  Clowney might still be a little more talented than some of our rotation but I'm still not a fan of having him on our roster.  He seems like a turd.

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2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

The days of the Bills taking scraps off of everyone else's trash heaps are thankfully behind us.  No more Reggie Bush, Shawne Merriman, AJ McCarron, Mario Williams, Vince Young, Matt Leinert or other has-beens or never-weres.

Putting Mario on this list is a joke. He was legit an all pro for a few years. The rest of those guys were complete scrubs.

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17 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

That's wildly, wildly inaccurate, but ok. Clowney is an elite run defender. Watkins has never been considered elite at any aspect of WR at the NFL level.


an “elite run defender” is exactly the same type of nonsense that is applied to Sammy— who was considered elite at “drawing coverage away from other receivers.” Those are just ways to make excuses for lack of actual production. 
 

Clowney was the number 1 overall pick in the draft, and the numbers don’t lie. His production as a defensive end is putrid. Elite ends are expected to stop the run— that is just par for the course. But they are paid to sack the QB. 
 

Clowney is just a plain bad. And he apparently also has a bad attitude. There is a reason that no one wants to pay him money and no one ever wants to re-sign the guy. The one time a team Re-signed him (Browns), they clearly now have regretted it. 

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3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


an “elite run defender” is exactly the same type of nonsense that is applied to Sammy— who was considered elite at “drawing coverage away from other receivers.” Those are just ways to make excuses for lack of actual production. 
 

Clowney was the number 1 overall pick in the draft, and the numbers don’t lie. His production as a defensive end is putrid. Elite ends are expected to stop the run— that is just par for the course. But they are paid to sack the QB. 
 

Clowney is just a plain bad. And he apparently also has a bad attitude. There is a reason that no one wants to pay him money and no one ever wants to re-sign the guy. The one time a team Re-signed him (Browns), they clearly now have regretted it. 

This is all completely incorrect and shows a complete ignorance to the intricacies of the game of football. You could do better than this take with 5 minutes of poking around the internet.

 

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11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

This is all completely incorrect and shows a complete ignorance to the intricacies of the game of football. You could do better than this take with 5 minutes of poking around the internet.

 


The market doesn’t lie. Clowney seems to be the only one surprised that no one will sign him to more than a 1-year deal. 

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5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Haha, this thread and one hit is why he somehow keeps getting contracts. He is the Sam Bradford of DEs. A dime a dozen player who gets treated like he is some star. 

 

He's made a fortune off this one highlight.

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

This is all completely incorrect and shows a complete ignorance to the intricacies of the game of football. You could do better than this take with 5 minutes of poking around the internet.

 

He's not a bum, but he's far from elite and nowhere as good as he thinks he is.

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