Clowney situation in Cleveland

[Saxum]

No reason for Browns to release him now.

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von…

Unlikely that the Browns would release him. His salary for the last game is $73k and he will net the Browns a comp pick down the line. He won’t be on the active roster for the last game so that will cost him $44k in per game roster bonus.

[Logic]

Clowney's career has been so strange.

Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind.

In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season.

Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Logic

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

Ya I'm tripping. He can decline a waiver right?

The team claiming him would have his rights until the end of his contract, which is the end of the current league year in March. They couldn’t force him to play though. So either a team he wants to play for would claim him and he’d play for that team or a team he doesn’t want to play for would claim him to block him from playing elsewhere. So he’d never make it to a team like the Bills. Teams high on the waver wire would just claim him to keep him from going to a top seed. 
 

It’s a moot point anyway. The Browns will keep him on their roster this last week for the comp pick. 

9 minutes ago, Logic said:

Clowney's career has been so strange.

Came into the league being touted as a generation prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind.

In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season.

Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation.

Yeah. He has been a good player, just not close to what you’d expect from an edge that went #1 overall. 

[Mr. WEO]

TBD and Clowney threads:

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We rotate our DE's a lot.  We aren't getting great production there outside of Rosseau and Shaq in the run game.  I would think Clowney would give us more than Boogie at this point.

Our interior is good.  

AJE has 7 sacks and 2 forced fumbles along w/ 5 tipped passes. Pretty decent production for a guy that’s in for like 30% of snaps. I hope he continues to improve. Basham is bordering on bust IMO, but that’s fine as long as Rousseau continues to improve. 

[BADOLBILZ]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

Clowney's career has been so strange.

Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind.

In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season.

Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation.

 

 

Clowney was already a legend as a HS recruit.    Players like that don't have to earn a lot of stripes.........they just gotta' flash the talent a bit too confirm to scouts what they saw.

 

People don't realize just how closely NFL personnel people follow recruiting........especially the road scout types like Doug Whaley.........I think that Cyrus Kouandjio and Sammy Watkins picks were heavily influenced by them being 5 star recruits from the same class as Clowney.    

[YoloinOhio]

46 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

No reason for Browns to release him now.

 No reason not to, if he requests it. Sometimes teams do things to appease agents they need to work with on other things 

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

He's basically Shaq Lawson.

So you're saying we have Clowney at home.

[BullBuchanan]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So you're saying we have Clowney at home.

more or less. He's an upgrade but the same kind of guy. He's not a Miller replacement.

[DCofNC]

3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

He's basically Shaq Lawson.

Yeah but with talent.

[Freddie's Dead]

GIT 'R' DUNNNNNNN!!!!

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Yeah but with talent.

now you got it.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

His last name fits him perfectly. 

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von…

 

Isn't this his excuse everywhere he flames out?  I want to be somewhere that believes in me?  At some point, his self belief needs to show up on the field and he needs to earn the belief of his peers and coaches.  

 

He has continuously under performed to expectations, and GROSSLY under performed to he value he places on himself that he tried (and failed) to secure in the open market now multiple times.  

 

He isn't a bad player, but he also isn't what he thinks he is.  And clearly he has not been enduring himself to teams, coaches, or locker rooms given that he keeps wearing out his welcome and then doesn't find much of a market for himself.  

 

Pass...this isn't the kind of energy/personality this locker room needs right now, and quite frankly he isn't doing anything Shaq Lawson can't do who has had a very good season and deserves all the minutes he gets on the field.  

[HOUSE]

Another failed Cleveland player, what a surprise 

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

Clowney's career has been so strange.

Came into the league being touted as a generational prospect. The excitement over him was largely due to one or two viral highlights from college that stick in everyone's mind.

In nine seasons in the NFL, he has had three 9+ sack seasons, one 6 sack season, and five seasons of 4.5 or less sacks, including three years with 2 or less sacks. He has never once had double digit sacks in a season. His career average is 4.7 sacks per season.

Decent player, but definitely still living off his college reputation.

I think the sack totals are slightly deceiving in that he had a number of seasons where he racked up very impressive tackles for loss numbers. He was second in the league in that category in 2017, 7th in 2016, and 9th in 2018. Those were his three final seasons in Houston. He is a force to be reckoned with vs the run. 
 

He was pretty good in Cleveland last season - 9 sacks, 19 qb hits, 11 TFLs, and two forced fumbles.

[wppete]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Could he ask for his release now and join a playoff team? He would need to be claimed  through waivers I believe but could be helpful with the loss of Von…

Wow that would be amazing but I don’t think he would even make it to us on waivers. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

So you're saying we have Clowney at home.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

He's basically Shaq Lawson.

Lawson couldn’t hit a 4.5 40 on rollerblades