Matt_In_NH Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I don't think it was dirty. He was going for maximum psychological intimidation. Try and hurdle, and if not, create a collision. And you could see that when he got up screaming. Hamlin, if it was his responsibility, came towards the LOS and Hurst just ran past him. So just a blown coverage either way. Bills started this game immediately on the backfoot by playing man and having Tre on Chase. No matter who you are, what team you play for, Burrow sees one on one with no over the top help? He's chucking deep. Hopefully the Bills learned that, because that only got that crowd into it even more. I agree...the Bengals offense was hyped Quote
Stads Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Can we all please stop the Hutchinson comments? His name is Hendrickson 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: It looks like he was trying to be dirty but failed miserably! Did Hendrickson even touch Allen? There wasn’t a flag because he never touched him, you can’t flag someone for trying to hit someone but doesn’t. Lol He injured Allen on the play. Yes he touched him. 1 Quote
wnyguy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: He injured Allen on the play. Yes he touched him. Who? Hutchison? 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) …but but but, look at the Bengals team after the fact. Dirty one minute, I want to console you the next. No thank you. Other than the Bills, I will be cheering for anyone but KC and CIN to come out of the AFC. Edited January 4, 2023 by LabattBlue 2 Quote
Amaru523 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: It's not the block which was excellent, but how he dipped his head at the end to make contact with the back of Taron's helmet. Intentionally went out of his way to make that contact, which is illegal whether they are on their feet or on the ground, I would think. It's much like hits on the QB that are legal but become a penalty when the defender tries to stuff the QB by landing on him with bull body weight which can separate a shoulder or crack ribs. Agree 100% After Hurst pushed Taron to the ground, he lowers his head and launches himself headfirst into the back of Taron's helmet. Completely unnecessary and dangerous. He didn't just fall on Taron, it looked to me like he was trying to hurt him, why do that to a guy that's face first on the ground? I was shocked at the time that a flag wasn't thrown for that. 3 Quote
Bengalholic Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 If you look at the whole clip, instead of the shortened one, you can clearly see that Trey falls after contact with the Bills lineman, lands on his broken wrist, then pulls his legs up to try to avoid contact with Allen. It's literally the opposite of a dirty play. If I thought it was, there's no shot I would defend it. 1 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Karma.. . . . if you exist it is time that you show up! Quote
wnyguy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: If you look at the whole clip, instead of the shortened one, you can clearly see that Trey falls after contact with the Bills lineman, lands on his broken wrist, then pulls his legs up to try to avoid contact with Allen. It's literally the opposite of a dirty play. If I thought it was, there's no shot I would defend it. He totally rolls into Allen on purpose, he could have easily fell forward thereby not even coming close to Allen, Instead he tucks and rolls in Allens direction catching Allens foot underneath him. He knew what he was doing and it was a cheap, dirty play. 4 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: If you look at the whole clip, instead of the shortened one, you can clearly see that Trey falls after contact with the Bills lineman, lands on his broken wrist, then pulls his legs up to try to avoid contact with Allen. It's literally the opposite of a dirty play. If I thought it was, there's no shot I would defend it. He literally stopped rolling for a half second, saw where Allen was, and then rolled into him. Saw it in real time and was just as dirty. GTFO here with this homer bs It was absolutely a purposely dirty play. The Taron Johnson play, whatever. The Hamlin play, not dirty. The Hendrickson play was absolutely dirty. 2 4 Quote
Bengalholic Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: He totally rolls into Allen on purpose, he could have easily fell forward thereby not even coming close to Allen, Instead he tucks and rolls in Allens direction catching Allens foot underneath him. He knew what he was doing and it was a cheap, dirty play. He fell in the exact direction momentum was taking him. He also landed on a broken wrist as he fell. The real-time video clearly shows there was no intent. 1 1 2 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Who? Hutchison? No Hendrickson. 1 Quote
WyoAZBillfan Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: He fell in the exact direction momentum was taking him. He also landed on a broken wrist as he fell. The real-time video clearly shows there was no intent. was not something I noticed until mentioned and so maybe it’s power of suggestion. It does appear as if he slows/stops whatever sees Allen and does an extra little roll.🤷🏼♂️ no doubt the Bengals were fired up to play however. Taron, hard to say IMO and no doubt on the Hamlin injury, that’s just players doing their job. Quote
Amaru523 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: He fell in the exact direction momentum was taking him. He also landed on a broken wrist as he fell. The real-time video clearly shows there was no intent. I don't know about that, looks like @DrDawkinstein is correct. He paused for a split second then it looks like he whipped himself around with the intent of rolling into Allen's ankle. 1 1 Quote
wnyguy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: He fell in the exact direction momentum was taking him. He also landed on a broken wrist as he fell. The real-time video clearly shows there was no intent. His momentum which was almost non existent was carrying him forward, instead he tucked and rolled towards Allen to initiate contact. And the more I see of that Hurst play the dirtier it looks. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bengalholic said: He fell in the exact direction momentum was taking him. He also landed on a broken wrist as he fell. The real-time video clearly shows there was no intent. There's a lot of love between Cinci and Buffalo right now, so focus on that and the real reason you're here. Coming in here to die on this hill probably isnt good for anyone. Even if you truly believe we are wrong, no one has the pitchforks out for the Bengals, just let it go. 1 Quote
wnyguy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: There's a lot of love between Cinci and Buffalo right now, so focus on that and the real reason you're here. Coming in here to die on this hill probably isnt good for anyone. Even if you truly believe we are wrong, no one has the pitchforks out for the Bengals, just let it go. Even if they are a bunch of cheap shot, dirty , scumbags. 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: He injured Allen on the play. Yes he touched him. I said looking at THAT video it doesn’t even look like he touched him. Also rolling onto a FOOT isn’t going get a flag, a fine and definitely not a suspension! Now had he leg whipped Allen the flags would have flown as well as fines.. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Even if they are a bunch of cheap shot, dirty , scumbags. Part of that is on the Bills for allowing teams to physically bully them like this, week in and week out. We're so "humble". Bengals came out fired up and ready to play hard and hit through the whistle. There are ways to prevent that but it takes a change in mindset. Dont have to be "dirty", but need to be ready to live on that edge. JP and Shaq sometimes get there. Diggs can get there but tough to set a team tone from the WR spot. Maybe Spencer Brown can get that hyped but he's too busy learning how to play his position.That's about it on this team. Incognito and Brandon Spikes used to be those dudes too. Feliciano a bit. Quote
wnyguy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, PatsFanNH said: I said looking at THAT video it doesn’t even look like he touched him. Also rolling onto a FOOT isn’t going get a flag, a fine and definitely not a suspension! Now had he leg whipped Allen the flags would have flown as well as fines.. At THAT video you are correct, we don't see him rolling into Allens ankle, BUT we know he did AND we know Allen got treatment on the sideline because of it. Quote
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