What Bengals & Chiefs fans are saying about the situation:

[muppy]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Exactly what I would have expected. 

Bengals fans are classy and reasonable, and the people from Chiefs Planet are horrible, wretched, despicable cretins. That place is the absolute armpit cesspool of the internet. I'm told that real Chiefs fans, in person, are actually very kind, knowledgeable, hospitable people. You CERTAINLY wouldn't know it by reading Chiefs Planet. Horrible, awful place.

The funny thing about those Chiefs fans being turdPreach!s about it is that they're the team most likely to benefit if the Bills and Bengals game is declared a no-contest. In that scenario, the league likely determines seeding by overall win percentage, and assuming the Chiefs beat the Raiders, they'd get the 1 seed. They would, in some sense, be GIFTED a first round bye, without the Bills ever having done anything to actually lose the 1st seed. Despite that good fortune for their team (relatively speaking...you know what I mean)...they're still being turds. Totally tracks.

Preach!

 

The bolded Im thinking "Now tell me how u really feel Logic don't hold back" it was the first chuckle Ive had since last night. Cretins is a great noun. Thanks man.

🙂

[Success]

The thing w/ the Chiefs is - we BEAT them.  At their place.  Fans there seem to be overlooking that when they imply that KC deserves the 1 seed now.

 

But I'm more than cool to see the Bills beat them in KC again, if that's what they want.

 

[frostbitmic]

I hope the Raiders kick their butts this Saturday.

 

And if we forfeit last nights game, I hope the Bengals take the #1 seed.

[beebe]

9 minutes ago, Success said:

The thing w/ the Chiefs is - we BEAT them.  At their place.  Fans there seem to be overlooking that when they imply that KC deserves the 1 seed now.

 

But I'm more than cool to see the Bills beat them in KC again, if that's what they want.

 

 

The Chiefs deserve the 1 seed if:

 

a) they beat the Raiders and

b) the Bills don't play a 17th game

 

It's obviously a horrible situation, but it's the clear fair thing to do in the event of no Bills-Bengals game taking place. You can't assume the outcome of a game. I'd say that even if the Bengals had led 35-0 early 3rd quarter. It sucks for the Bengals just as much as it sucks for the Bills. 

 

To say to the Chiefs, "Well, yes, you went 14-3 and we went 13-3, but we beat you heads up," is obviously ridiculous. 14-3 is clearly better than 13-3. It just is. 

 

If the Chiefs lose to the Raiders, and no Bills-Bengals game is played, the Chiefs could fall to third place. In that were to happen, they'd obviously want the Bills-Bengals game to take place so they could cheer for the Bills in hopes of getting the 2 seed. So in that case, that would be unfair to the Chiefs. 

 

If the NFL had decided to play Bills-Bengals on Thursday -- and then the Bills-Pats and Ravens-Bengals games next Tuesday, before playoffs the next weekend -- that would have been unfair to the Ravens and Patriots. There's potential unfairness everywhere you look. The chances of making a ruling that benefits every team is an impossibility. 

[CoudyBills]

2 hours ago, BigDingus said:

Bengals Board Posts - http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-What-would-you-like-to-happen :

 

1. "It's fine by me to just declare the game a no-contest, with no winners, no ties, and don't replay. Players and fans of other teams impacted would understand. The worst scenario for me is a decision that benefits the Bengals because that would cast the Bengals as villains from now until the end of the NFL. I'd rather the Bengals take the high road, even offer to take a decision hurts the Bengals. It was the Bengals field, the Bengals were hosts, so even offer to take a loss if they want."

 

2. "If I'm the Bengals, I'd offer the Bills the W just as a nice gesture. It's relatively meaningless to them right now, but it would just show support. Whether they'd accept it or not, calling the game for them would just be a nice thing to do, and would be well regarded for a long time." 

 

3. "I am fine with anything other than accepting a loss. Cincinnati did absolutely nothing wrong. You can’t punish Cincinnati for something out of their control."

 

4. "IMO the Bills should be given the option to play it or forfeit. There should be no tie or "no contest". 

 

5. "The moment the Bengals agreed to leave the field and then the game altogether, they forfeited any sensible capacity to demand a forfeit. Ridiculous."

 

6. "To some extent there is time to resume the game, at the same point, because the two weeks break before the Super Bowl can always become a one-week break. Two weeks always seems too much anyway. They can push the playoffs back a week. Playoff teams all get a week extra. I'm sure you can't push the Super Bowl back, but playoff games surely can, because you never know whether a team would be playing anyway."

 

7. "What if Bills are still too overcome with grief and sadness to play New England, what does the God man do then ? Should the Bills' feelings dictate how the season plays out? Should they just be awarded the Lombardi and the lague just calls it quits til next season?"

 

8. "Probably won’t happen, but: Scratch this game entirely. If the Bengals and Bills meet in the playoffs, play it at a neutral site (Detroit would be very fair). I realize Buffalo would have the better record, but yesterday’s game was still for the 2-seed at least."

 

9. "My biggest fear at this point is Buffalo trying to use this whole situation to their advantage. There is more incentive for them to NOT PLAY this game and take a tie rather than to play it (down 7-3 and the Bengals threatening to score again) to try and claim the 1 seed. If they lobby for a tie, it gives them the two seed, gives them one less game for their guys to get hurt, and eliminates the possibility of slipping to a 3 seed. Given how the game was going and the score, I think they'd be more than happy hanging on to the 2 seed rather than chancing it. I hope I am wrong, but a tie really ***** over the Bengals here."

 

10. "Absolutely nothing from the Bills owners, coaching staff or fans indicates they would try to use this to their advantage. GTFO with that sh" (response to above post)

 

 

Chiefs Board Posts https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=346826 :

 

1. "I hope our fanbase doesn't come out being jerks about it, whatever happens. I can't imagine we would, but there are always a few exceptions. At this point if they just simply cancel the game and go from there, who cares?"

 

2. "As far as I am concerned both teams decided last night to forfeit the game." 

 

3. *Here's a little back & forth* -

 

Guy 1: "It's an unfair advantage to allow them to choose to play a game in the next few days or next week that they chose not to continue last night because someone nearly died on the field? Yeah, that seems like a solid and persuasive argument."

 

Guy 2: "Yes because of playoff implications, it IS an unfair advantage. We had a player off himself in front of our COACH and GM and we played two days later, as scheduled. "Nearly Died" We have seen players become PERMANENTLY PARALYZED and they continued to play. The unfair advantage is some teams would be RESTING players next week. Now this throws a wrench into the entire seeding issue."

 

Guy 1: "Do you think the Chiefs would've played the game if Belcher had killed himself in the parking lot immediately before the game? Answer: no. We now know that he didn't die on the field. But at the time, none of those players had any idea if he'd make it to the hospital or even off the field alive. Not the same as a guy being taken away by an ambulance on a stretcher with fear of a potential paralyzing injury."

 

4. "America is so weak." 

 

5. "I'd say leave it up to the Bills. If they're not up for it within the next few days, they need to forfeit."

 

6. "This is going to go down with the Music City Miracle and Wide Right in Bills lore."

 

7. "if they cant / dont want to play it, then they should just concede the L and move on."

 

8. "The right call is whatever is best for the teams involved. The right call has nothing to do with inconveniences or money lost by the fans."

 

9. "If they call the game, I think it needs to be a Bills loss and Bengals win. Bengals were winning and playing really well. It wasn’t one of their players who went down, so why punish them?"

 

10. "I have to say, I've never seen more virtue signaling in my life. Everybody is trying to show everybody how morally superior they are on this subject. People on fantasy football Reddit are acting like people can't even ask questions about how to proceed in their leagues."

 

11. "This year in lieu of a superbowl trophy every team will get a participation trophy as well. **** that. Take a L for a forfeit, take a tie if Cinci agrees (and I doubt they will), or play the game. I'm not trying to sound callous here and I understand they saw some scary *****, but come on man. It sounds an awful lot like someone is trying to use that ***** for their advantage."

 

**************************************************

 

So yeah... majority of Bengals fans seem as confused/concerned as we are. There were a handful of dumb posts, but most of them echoed our sentiments. Chiefs fans on the other hand, much more of a mixed bag. There were plenty of posts voicing concern, but also a MUCH greater % of people being callous, talking s*** or just whining. It's clear they've got no interest in any solution that involves them. 

 

You expected better from Chiefs fan?  Bold move cotton.

[BruceVilanch]

Chiefs planet is a vapid hellscape

[Steptide]

We can all sit here and bash kc fans all we want, but I gaurentee if it was a kc player this happened to and there was a possibility of it affecting the bills 1 seed spot, there would absolutely be posters here saying similar things 

[Warcodered]

12 minutes ago, Steptide said:

We can all sit here and bash kc fans all we want, but I gaurentee if it was a kc player this happened to and there was a possibility of it affecting the bills 1 seed spot, there would absolutely be posters here saying similar things 

There's really very little point to this, there have been awful people on here too. Most sane people see this as what it is a tragedy that goes beyond football. If people want to go looking for #######s it's not going to be hard to find them.

[Matt_In_NH]

The bengals did nothing wrong…..it was all the evil Bills fault?   People are so biased and they don’t have a clue.  

[Success]

20 minutes ago, Steptide said:

We can all sit here and bash kc fans all we want, but I gaurentee if it was a kc player this happened to and there was a possibility of it affecting the bills 1 seed spot, there would absolutely be posters here saying similar things 

 

There is truth there, and - as is often said - EVERY fanbase has a toxic element.

 

I do think it's more prevalent in that fanbase, at least online.  Their board is nothing like any other board - it's not even close.  It is an ugly place.

 

[K D]

7 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The bengals did nothing wrong…..it was all the evil Bills fault?   People are so biased and they don’t have a clue.  

Bills are doing it on purpose to gain an advantage according to them

[Irv]

My wife and I bought our daughter tix to the game in Cincy.  She said pretty much the whole stadium was crying.  I would not blame the Bills for forfeiting the rest of the regular season including last night's game.  Take time to get things sorted out.  but does that give them more rest/advantage?  I also wonder about how the gamblers will view that something like that.  Fanduel, Vegas, and all those types.  Has to be sticky situation.  Like what if you had the Bills O/U wins at 13?  How would that be handled. Yes - I know that's trivial in light of the situation.   Lot of factors here.     

 

 

 

   

Edited January 4, 2023 by Irv

[ChasBB]

I'd opt for pushing playoffs back 1 week and playing the game on Thursday of next week.  This leaves more than a full week if playing wild card weekend and leaves over 2 weeks if get #1 seed.  Most teams might welcome a bye week to start the playoffs (probably ought to be that way, anyhow, jmo).

[gordong]

all this does is reinforce that chiefs fans have a lot of idiots...    AND they are scared to come to OP for a playoff game. 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

I don't think that its Chiefs fans in general. I just think Chiefs Planet is a toxic unmoderated online community. 

 

Thought it was moderated, and the moderators were part of the problem?

 

Anyway we had a decent Chiefs fan drop by at one point and explained where the decent Chiefs boards were.  Apparently even Chiefs fans regard Chiefs Planet as a Sinkhole.

[Ralonzo]

5 hours ago, chongli said:

Someone on the Miami board said playing the game in Cincy is bad juju, given Hamlin and what happened to Tua.

 

Saw similar from Patriots regarding Hamlin's ejection for the hit on Meyers.

[chongli]

1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Saw similar from Patriots regarding Hamlin's ejection for the hit on Meyers.

 

Yep, good point. Someone on the Bengals forum also said Hamlin was a dirty player and cited that ejection. Ugh. And a twitter post aksed why are they suspeding the game for just a 6th-round draft pick. Unbelievable.

[US Egg]

A mean and meaningless pretend sticks and stones thread to fan on some lame flames in a difficult situation.

Edited January 4, 2023 by I am the egg man

[Caesar]

7 hours ago, BigDingus said:

Bengals Board Posts - http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-What-would-you-like-to-happen :

 

1. "It's fine by me to just declare the game a no-contest, with no winners, no ties, and don't replay. Players and fans of other teams impacted would understand. The worst scenario for me is a decision that benefits the Bengals because that would cast the Bengals as villains from now until the end of the NFL. I'd rather the Bengals take the high road, even offer to take a decision hurts the Bengals. It was the Bengals field, the Bengals were hosts, so even offer to take a loss if they want."

 

2. "If I'm the Bengals, I'd offer the Bills the W just as a nice gesture. It's relatively meaningless to them right now, but it would just show support. Whether they'd accept it or not, calling the game for them would just be a nice thing to do, and would be well regarded for a long time." 

 

3. "I am fine with anything other than accepting a loss. Cincinnati did absolutely nothing wrong. You can’t punish Cincinnati for something out of their control."

 

4. "IMO the Bills should be given the option to play it or forfeit. There should be no tie or "no contest". 

 

5. "The moment the Bengals agreed to leave the field and then the game altogether, they forfeited any sensible capacity to demand a forfeit. Ridiculous."

 

6. "To some extent there is time to resume the game, at the same point, because the two weeks break before the Super Bowl can always become a one-week break. Two weeks always seems too much anyway. They can push the playoffs back a week. Playoff teams all get a week extra. I'm sure you can't push the Super Bowl back, but playoff games surely can, because you never know whether a team would be playing anyway."

 

7. "What if Bills are still too overcome with grief and sadness to play New England, what does the God man do then ? Should the Bills' feelings dictate how the season plays out? Should they just be awarded the Lombardi and the lague just calls it quits til next season?"

 

8. "Probably won’t happen, but: Scratch this game entirely. If the Bengals and Bills meet in the playoffs, play it at a neutral site (Detroit would be very fair). I realize Buffalo would have the better record, but yesterday’s game was still for the 2-seed at least."

 

9. "My biggest fear at this point is Buffalo trying to use this whole situation to their advantage. There is more incentive for them to NOT PLAY this game and take a tie rather than to play it (down 7-3 and the Bengals threatening to score again) to try and claim the 1 seed. If they lobby for a tie, it gives them the two seed, gives them one less game for their guys to get hurt, and eliminates the possibility of slipping to a 3 seed. Given how the game was going and the score, I think they'd be more than happy hanging on to the 2 seed rather than chancing it. I hope I am wrong, but a tie really ***** over the Bengals here."

 

10. "Absolutely nothing from the Bills owners, coaching staff or fans indicates they would try to use this to their advantage. GTFO with that sh" (response to above post)

 

 

Chiefs Board Posts https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=346826 :

 

1. "I hope our fanbase doesn't come out being jerks about it, whatever happens. I can't imagine we would, but there are always a few exceptions. At this point if they just simply cancel the game and go from there, who cares?"

 

2. "As far as I am concerned both teams decided last night to forfeit the game." 

 

3. *Here's a little back & forth* -

 

Guy 1: "It's an unfair advantage to allow them to choose to play a game in the next few days or next week that they chose not to continue last night because someone nearly died on the field? Yeah, that seems like a solid and persuasive argument."

 

Guy 2: "Yes because of playoff implications, it IS an unfair advantage. We had a player off himself in front of our COACH and GM and we played two days later, as scheduled. "Nearly Died" We have seen players become PERMANENTLY PARALYZED and they continued to play. The unfair advantage is some teams would be RESTING players next week. Now this throws a wrench into the entire seeding issue."

 

Guy 1: "Do you think the Chiefs would've played the game if Belcher had killed himself in the parking lot immediately before the game? Answer: no. We now know that he didn't die on the field. But at the time, none of those players had any idea if he'd make it to the hospital or even off the field alive. Not the same as a guy being taken away by an ambulance on a stretcher with fear of a potential paralyzing injury."

 

4. "America is so weak." 

 

5. "I'd say leave it up to the Bills. If they're not up for it within the next few days, they need to forfeit."

 

6. "This is going to go down with the Music City Miracle and Wide Right in Bills lore."

 

7. "if they cant / dont want to play it, then they should just concede the L and move on."

 

8. "The right call is whatever is best for the teams involved. The right call has nothing to do with inconveniences or money lost by the fans."

 

9. "If they call the game, I think it needs to be a Bills loss and Bengals win. Bengals were winning and playing really well. It wasn’t one of their players who went down, so why punish them?"

 

10. "I have to say, I've never seen more virtue signaling in my life. Everybody is trying to show everybody how morally superior they are on this subject. People on fantasy football Reddit are acting like people can't even ask questions about how to proceed in their leagues."

 

11. "This year in lieu of a superbowl trophy every team will get a participation trophy as well. **** that. Take a L for a forfeit, take a tie if Cinci agrees (and I doubt they will), or play the game. I'm not trying to sound callous here and I understand they saw some scary *****, but come on man. It sounds an awful lot like someone is trying to use that ***** for their advantage."

 

**************************************************

 

So yeah... majority of Bengals fans seem as confused/concerned as we are. There were a handful of dumb posts, but most of them echoed our sentiments. Chiefs fans on the other hand, much more of a mixed bag. There were plenty of posts voicing concern, but also a MUCH greater % of people being callous, talking s*** or just whining. It's clear they've got no interest in any solution that involves them. 

 

Not surprised. 

[Caesar]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

 

Yep, good point. Someone on the Bengals forum also said Hamlin was a dirty player and cited that ejection. Ugh. And a twitter post aksed why are they suspeding the game for just a 6th-round draft pick. Unbelievable.

I haven't seen any Bengals fan disparage Hamlin on our board?  We have a couple of idiots and more than a few drive by posters that are fans of other teams.  I dont think there is any doubt that the team and the city is 99.99% concerned and praying for the young man and the other players.