HappyDays Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Caesar said: Their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense before losing 2 DBs (prayers for both). This uninformed comment simply reveals you didnt watch either game. They scored a TD on the opening drive and had gotten exactly one 1st down on the 2nd drive. The Bills defense always looks soft early. To me it looked like a game that was going to come down to the wire. Both offenses moved the ball at will on the first drive, one finished with 7 one finished with 3. There's nothing you could possibly project about the rest of that game based on that early result. The NFL is too volatile to make projections after one half let alone two drives. Edited January 6, 2023 by HappyDays 1 2 2 Quote
Punch Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Caesar said: Yet we have more wins and 2 less losses than the Ravens, yet we were gifted? That makes no sense. As you well know, if the Bills beat the Bengals in Week 17, the Ravens would have an opportunity to win the North outright this week. Quote
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Caesar said: We are more pissed about the Chiefs, but the way the game was going many felt like we were in the drivers seat for our game. Of course Josh and this team could have come back but your defense wasn't looking good and losing players, we thought we had a great chance. You weren't up by 4 scores man. You were up by 4 points. Tampa started out hot too 17-3 and it looked like you couldn't stop them. this is why they play the full 60 minutes. 2 1 2 Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Caesar said: Yet we have more wins and 2 less losses than the Ravens, yet we were gifted? That makes no sense. Sheesh man, thanks for comin' down for the solidarity earlier in the week, but your agenda is getting overwrought here. Is there somewhere else you'd rather be? 2 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Caesar said: Yet we have more wins and 2 less losses than the Ravens, yet we were gifted? That makes no sense. I think it's probably best solution they can come up with that sucks some for everyone but mitigates the disadvantage the Bills and Bengals would have if they tried to squeeze this game in before the playoffs. 1 Quote
Punch Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: You weren't up by 4 scores man. You were up by 4 points. Tampa started out hot too 17-3 and it looked like you couldn't stop them. this is why they play the full 60 minutes. Common sense and logic? In this economy??? 1 Quote
akm0404 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Caesar said: Yet we have more wins and 2 less losses than the Ravens, yet we were gifted? That makes no sense. You guys lost the ability to lose both of your last two and lose your division. The Bills lost the chance to win their last two and get the #1 seed and the goodies that come with that. The Ravens lost the chance for the Bengals to lose to the Bills and have a chance to beat them for the AFCN crown. The Chiefs lost...well I'm not exactly sure but it must be something right?! But, at least the Bengals and the Bills control a bit of their own destiny and winning this week secures clear advantages in the playoff seeding. Either way, to win the AFC Championship, someone is going to have to run the gauntlet and defeat two out of three of the Bills/Bengals/Chiefs (most likely). This isn't the NFC where you can finesse your way with advantageous matchups, it's going to be brutal. Edited January 6, 2023 by akm0404 2 Quote
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Punch said: Common sense and logic? In this economy??? Well it is a Bengals fan on a Bills board trying to convincingly argue with Bills fans that the Bengals would have won a game that was not played 😂 2 1 1 Quote
Caesar Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They scored a TD on the opening drive and had gotten exactly one 1st down on the 2nd drive. The Bills defense always looks soft early. To me it looked like a game that was going to come down to the wire. Both offenses moved the ball at will on the first drive, one finished with 7 one finished with 3. There's nothing you could possibly project about the rest of that game based on that early result. The NFL is too volatile to make projections after one half let alone two drives. 5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: You weren't up by 4 scores man. You were up by 4 points. Tampa started out hot too 17-3 and it looked like you couldn't stop them. this is why they play the full 60 minutes. I was pretty clear in an earlier post that this was the view of our fans when the game ended, no doubt the Bills could have come back. The point is, we were given every scenario that could happen if we did lose the game, and we surely wasn't looking like it at the time. It's just not a fair solution. Quote
NickelCity Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Caesar said: We are more pissed about the Chiefs, but the way the game was going many felt like we were in the drivers seat for our game. Of course Josh and this team could have come back but your defense wasn't looking good and losing players, we thought we had a great chance. Yeah I got that sense reading your board, lol. It's tough to know. Our MO this year is to look like absolute horseshit on defense in the first quarter then lock it down. We made the Bears look dynamite in the first drive last week. I think the game was a toss up, and certainly not the beatdown you may have expected. I am pissed about the Chiefs. 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Why not Detroit? It's a dome. We are cold weather teams. If any will be effected more it's Cinci. Play in. Cleveland Quote
Supercoupe91 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, akm0404 said: You guys lost the ability to lose both of your last two and lose your division. The Bills lost the chance to win their last two and get the #1 seed and the goodies that come with that. The Ravens lost the chance for the Bengals to lose to the Bills and have a chance to beat them for the AFCN crown. The Chiefs lost...well I'm not exactly sure but it must be something right?! But, at least the Bengals and the Bills control a bit of their own destiny and winning this week secures clear advantages in the playoff seeding. Either way, to win the AFC Championship, someone is going to have to run the gauntlet and defeat two out of three of the Bills/Bengals/Chiefs (most likely). This isn't the NFC where you can finesse your way with advantageous matchups, it's going to be brutal. Kc lost significant odds to host the afc title game vs buffalo. Quote
What a Tuel Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Caesar said: I was pretty clear in an earlier post that this was the view of our fans when the game ended, no doubt the Bills could have come back. The point is, we were given every scenario that could happen if we did lose the game, and we surely wasn't looking like it at the time. It's just not a fair solution. The game should certainly be replayed. Can't believe they officially ruled that out. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Caesar said: Keep thinking the Bengals did not own the Bucs or Patriots. Their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense before losing 2 DBs (prayers for both). This uninformed comment simply reveals you didnt watch either game. Im guessing you were not watching Monday either. No it is a coin flip to determine home field. 1st time ever a division winner and Top 4 seed has to play on the road the first playoff game. This is awful for the Bengals. What part is good for Cincy? It is awful for them. You guys are getting short end of stick. So could the Bills be as they controlled their own path to the 1 seed. I feel for you but there is no perfect solution there was always going to be multiple teams getting the short end of it. As for your comment about "their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense" ... so did just about every team the Bills played in the first quarter this year. It means nothing. The Bills offense ran through your defense as well. It means nothing. There is no way to know who would have won that game. 1 1 Quote
akm0404 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Caesar has a legitimate point that at the time of the injury, the Bengals had overcome being a 2.5 point underdog, and were a slight favorite in live wagering. In the most optimistic light, betting markets favored the Bengals to win the game somewhere around 55% of the time. While this certainly doesn't equate to any sort of high probability of winning, I think it's fair to say they were better than a coinflip at that fateful moment in time. 1 Quote
Caesar Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, akm0404 said: You guys lost the ability to lose both of your last two and lose your division. The Bills lost the chance to win their last two and get the #1 seed and the goodies that come with that. The Ravens lost the chance for the Bengals to lose to the Bills and have a chance to beat them for the AFCN crown. The Chiefs lost...well I'm not exactly sure but it must be something right?! But, at least the Bengals and the Bills control a bit of their own destiny and winning this week secures clear advantages in the playoff seeding. Either way, to win the AFC Championship, someone is going to have to run the gauntlet and defeat two out of three of the Bills/Bengals/Chiefs (most likely). This isn't the NFC where you can finesse your way with advantageous matchups, it's going to be brutal. Umm, we also lost the ability to WIN both games too. This is the problem we are having with this solution, it seems to have been created to fit the scenario that the Bengals would have lost to the Bills and thus we were given these stipulations. 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: Yeah I got that sense reading your board, lol. It's tough to know. Our MO this year is to look like absolute horseshit on defense in the first quarter then lock it down. We made the Bears look dynamite in the first drive last week. I think the game was a toss up, and certainly not the beatdown you may have expected. I am pissed about the Chiefs. Definitely more pissed about the Chiefs on our end as well. Quote
TBBills Fan Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You know when I first heard the coin flip idea I thought it was the worst idea yet. But the more I've thought about it, it would have been the best solution. The game was looking like a coin flip anyways. Instead of screwing over a bunch of teams they should have just randomly assigned a winner and moved on. I'm surprised they decided to make it so convoluted. Actually, that kind of makes sense. Buff vs Cincy game decided by a coin flip and move on. I think both teams might have been okay with it. I mean as a Bills fan, honestly I am okay with this solution as well though. Just to make it fun, the league should flip a coin and heads is one option and tails is the other! Edited January 6, 2023 by TBBills Fan Quote
Beck Water Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Caesar said: Keep thinking the Bengals did not own the Bucs or Patriots. Their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense before losing 2 DBs (prayers for both). This uninformed comment simply reveals you didnt watch either game. Im guessing you were not watching Monday either. WTH did I just read? I can't deny that the NFL proposal of how to handle the playoffs after the "no contest" game is unfair to the Bengals in aspects. That was going to happen. No way to make it fair to all parties that I could conceptualize But as far as telling someone the Bengals didn't "own the Bucs or Patriots" - when my team is losing 17-3 at the half as the Bengals were to the Bucs, I don't feel that they're "owning" the opponent, and I'd actually be very surprised if you felt that way in the moment. You turned it around in the 3Q, never looked back, and got the W. Very creditable. The Bills have had also had a couple wins this season where we went into halftime down and came back. So "running through the Bills" on the first two drives doesn't show you'd win, just as being down at the half to TB didn't show you'd lose. Edited January 6, 2023 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote
Caesar Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: You guys are getting short end of stick. So could the Bills be as they controlled their own path to the 1 seed. I feel for you but there is no perfect solution there was always going to be multiple teams getting the short end of it. As for your comment about "their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense" ... so did just about every team the Bills played in the first quarter this year. It means nothing. The Bills offense ran through your defense as well. It means nothing. There is no way to know who would have won that game. Our D played predictable as well, we have a great redzone defense - we are the epitome of bend dont break. But you guys ran us better than most to start the game. Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, akm0404 said: The Chiefs lost...well I'm not exactly sure but it must be something right?! The Chiefs were always bound to be the only team to tangibly benefit, gaining a clear path to the biggest advantage offered in this goofball 7-team playoff format - the only bye in the conference. I thought, perhaps with that being an biggest carrot, the league might open up an 8th entry to mitigate it, but hahah what was I thinking. Quote
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