Players retiring ???

[Snappysnackcakes]

If you’re that player who’s gotten at least one non-rookie contract, do you seriously consider hanging it up after watching what’s gone on this season with Tua and now Damar? (A few others, too)
 

Not many guys will do this, and I’m not claiming they should, but how can a fella not think about this when they self-evaluate after the season? Wives, parents, and, hopefully, agents need to have these conversations. We’re not at the same risk level as Bering Sea fishing, but it is not sustainable. 
 

Poyer? Dude, your body is breaking down. Micah? Walk away while you can. Mitch? Same. Saffold? Do you really need the extra $3mil? I could say something about half of our team alone. 
 

Guys may start really thinking about getting in and getting out with their health first and the wallet is just a bonus. 
 

Is this conversation too soon? Maybe. 

[NoSaint]

Probably not. 
 

they know it’s a dangerous game, and have seen guys paralyzed. I think the retirement talk is larger being a prisoner of the emotions of the moment- on Sunday they will be nfl players, and for many it’s everything they ever dreamed of, even knowing the risk. 
 

hell, the concussion stuff illustrates the need for outsiders to intervene and stop the players from hurting themselves 

[DCofNC]

2 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

If you’re that player who’s gotten at least one non-rookie contract, do you seriously consider hanging it up after watching what’s gone on this season with Tua and now Damar? (A few others, too)
 

Not many guys will do this, and I’m not claiming they should, but how can a fella not think about this when they self-evaluate after the season? Wives, parents, and, hopefully, agents need to have these conversations. We’re not at the same risk level as Bering Sea fishing, but it is not sustainable. 
 

Poyer? Dude, your body is breaking down. Micah? Walk away while you can. Mitch? Same. Saffold? Do you really need the extra $3mil? I could say something about half of our team alone. 
 

Guys may start really thinking about getting in and getting out with their health first and the wallet is just a bonus. 
 

Is this conversation too soon? Maybe. 

Too soon indeed.  That said, I would not be shocked to see some guys walk away after seeing this first hand.  It’s a different level of scary.

[Snappysnackcakes]

Just now, NoSaint said:

Probably not. 
 

they know it’s a dangerous game, and have seen guys paralyzed. I think the retirement talk is larger being a prisoner of the emotions of the moment- on Sunday they will be nfl players, and for many it’s everything they ever dreamed of, even knowing the risk. 
 

hell, the concussion stuff illustrates the need for outsiders to intervene and stop the players from hurting themselves 

Yeah, you’re right. I don’t know how some of these guys get cleared medically.

[GolfandBills]

4 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

If you’re that player who’s gotten at least one non-rookie contract, do you seriously consider hanging it up after watching what’s gone on this season with Tua and now Damar? (A few others, too)
 

Not many guys will do this, and I’m not claiming they should, but how can a fella not think about this when they self-evaluate after the season? Wives, parents, and, hopefully, agents need to have these conversations. We’re not at the same risk level as Bering Sea fishing, but it is not sustainable. 
 

Poyer? Dude, your body is breaking down. Micah? Walk away while you can. Mitch? Same. Saffold? Do you really need the extra $3mil? I could say something about half of our team alone. 
 

Guys may start really thinking about getting in and getting out with their health first and the wallet is just a bonus. 
 

Is this conversation too soon? Maybe. 

Sounds like a selfish way to voice your fears amidst a tragic event 

[Not at the table Karlos]

Wouldn't cross my mind. Things can happen anywhere at any time. When it's my time it's my time. Id rather something happen doing something I love and enjoying myself. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Boxers have had concussion and have had deaths in their sport....they still keep fighting.

When you have a passion, it's hard to quit. 

 

You put your body through hell.  Anything from a concussion in football to a ballet dancers toes....you just can't stop.

[Snappysnackcakes]

Just now, GolfandBills said:

Sounds like a selfish way to voice your fears amidst a tragic event 

You, my homie, are classless. 

[K D]

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of players decide not to play anymore this season if not ever. If you are Tre White what is keeping you there if you have $36 million?

[BullBuchanan]

What has changed? If players didn't know by now that concussions happen in football, they never will. The Hamlin incident is an extremely rare freak incident that could just as easily have happened at a pickup basketball game, playing with your kids, working around the house whatever.

Football has never been a game for soft people. Injuries, sometimes lifelong, are a big part of the game. None of this is new, and it's part of what you sign up for. It doesn't make it easy to handle when it happens, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last that someone gets critically injured. If this wasn't a game played at a high intensity with the chance for significant injury, there wouldn't be an audience - at least not an audience that's any bigger that the AFFL.

[NewEra]

I was thinking the same as this was going on.  Specifically about Tre.  I could see him retiring after this.  He almost sat out during covid and is an extreme family man that has generational wealth. 
 

Poyer is out there on a torn mcl and battered elbow with no guaranteed money for next year.  Risking his livelihood for the team.

 

Hyde had neck surgery…..and was contemplating returning to play this season.  
 

Demars childhood best friend, Dane, had a neck injury and was motionless and taken off in an ambulance

 

Taron was consisted just minutes before.  
 

Our team is a close and loving family.  Our secondary room is even closer knit than our team is.  Lots of ❤️ between them.  
 

I can only imagine what this men are thinking right now. I’ve tested up a couple times this morning thinking about the pain so many are going through, let alone Demars family and friends. 
 

🙏🏻 

 

 

[Success]

I think the impact is going to be more in the future.  Thousands of parents probably decided last night not to let their kids play football.

[LeGOATski]

Players have retired early plenty of times before this and I'm sure we'll see more.

[Ta111]

13 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Probably not. 
 

they know it’s a dangerous game, and have seen guys paralyzed. I think the retirement talk is larger being a prisoner of the emotions of the moment- on Sunday they will be nfl players, and for many it’s everything they ever dreamed of, even knowing the risk. 
 

hell, the concussion stuff illustrates the need for outsiders to intervene and stop the players from hurting themselves 

Agreed. In addition, to my knowledge, this is the first injury of its kind in NFL history, meaning it’s a once in a lifetime type event. While we are all concerned for Hamlin’s health and recovery, there are risks in everyday life that probably greater than what happened last night.

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Players have retired early plenty of times before this and I'm sure we'll see more.

Generally that’s because of injuries they’ve sustained and risks of those injuries going forward. Frankly, I’d be shocked to see anyone retire, who is otherwise healthy, because of last night.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What has changed? If players didn't know by now that concussions happen in football, they never will. The Hamlin incident is an extremely rare freak incident that could just as easily have happened at a pickup basketball game, playing with your kids, working around the house whatever.

Football has never been a game for soft people. Injuries, sometimes lifelong, are a big part of the game. None of this is new, and it's part of what you sign up for. It doesn't make it easy to handle when it happens, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last that someone gets critically injured. If this wasn't a game played at a high intensity with the chance for significant injury, there wouldn't be an audience - at least not an audience that's any bigger that the AFFL.

Have you ever seen someone potentially die in front of you while they are doing the same job as you?  
 

Life experience isn’t in a vacuum.  Many of these guys are already set for life.  For many NFL players, football is a means to support their families.  Once you’re set for life, why risk your life?  Some love the game so much that this won’t have an effect of their careers. Some may not.  
 

everyone has their own view of life and how they want to live the rest of it.  If I saw my brother potentially lose his life in front of me while doing our jobs, I may consider another job.  
 

The thought of something can be much different than witnessing something first hand.  
 

if I had multimillions in the bank, I would owe it to my family to, at the very least, give it some thought 

[Motorin']

11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What has changed? If players didn't know by now that concussions happen in football, they never will. The Hamlin incident is an extremely rare freak incident that could just as easily have happened at a pickup basketball game, playing with your kids, working around the house whatever.

Football has never been a game for soft people. Injuries, sometimes lifelong, are a big part of the game. None of this is new, and it's part of what you sign up for. It doesn't make it easy to handle when it happens, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last that someone gets critically injured. If this wasn't a game played at a high intensity with the chance for significant injury, there wouldn't be an audience - at least not an audience that's any bigger that the AFFL.

 

Last night Ryan Clark said he didn't even know he could die at the age of 24.

 

There's definitely an illusion of invincibility when you're young, and especially for pro athletes.

 

We don't know exactly what the Bills saw last night, bc they shielded us from seeing it. But you could see the trauma in their faces after watching CPR and shock treated be administered to their brother to restart his heart.

 

All I know is that was a different level of reality then any of those players have probably been exposed to in their lives. 

 

[Mr. WEO]

no.

 

they all understand that they have a much higher risk of something like CTE related chronic disease than having a life threatening cardiac event on the field.  Why would this make them wish to retire?

[Don Otreply]

It’s generally a minority of players that leave early for health reasons,  they all know to varying degrees the potential harm they are inflicting on themselves and their opponents. It’s a freedom of choice decision. Life is sadly unfair and a gamble, one choice from another brings different outcomes…,  who when they were young would turn down a chance at being a one percenter for four to maybe ten years running? I know I would have taken the chance. 
 

🙏 for DH

Edited January 3, 2023 by Don Otreply

[BuffaloBills1998]

Unfortunately this will effect the NFL and the game as we know it. I could see players walking away. This is why most choose to play Baseball. More guaranteed money and very little to no contact. 

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

no.

 

they all understand that they have a much higher risk of something like CTE related chronic disease than having a life threatening cardiac event on the field.  Why would this make them wish to retire?

Most players are going to be looking at the long term affect the game has on their health. And these guys are guaranteed only so much money. 

[SCBills]

I'd say no, but I do wonder about Tre White given his views during the covid opt-out, the emotion he showed last night and his philosophical tone coming back from the ACL injury.

 

For everyone else, I doubt it.  This was such a freak incident.  A routine tackle.  Extremely rare, but has happened in other sports too.   

 

I don't even know how to wrap my head around that... no way to prevent it, which I think adds to the feeling of mortality, but I don't think it changes 99% of players views on playing football.