Locomark Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 So is this what happened , I assume someone with more medical skills already mentioned this in the 99 pages… it says the athlete often stumbles a few steps before collapsing with no heart beat. https://ksi.uconn.edu/emergency-conditions/cardiac-conditions/commotio-cordis/ Sent from Mark's IPhone Quote
AlfaBill Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR. What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. 3 Quote
oldmanfan Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Guys, I teach anatomy and physiology. Just saw a report indicating he’s lying in a prone position. You do that when oxygenation is impaired; It was one of the advances made in treating Covid patients. Lung damage does not have to be a physical assault like from compressions. When the heart isn’t functioning properly then pressure backs up into the lungs and you get pulmonary edema. It’s harder to oxygenate through the lungs with edema. Hence the requirement for higher oxygen. I’m glad to hear they’re reducing the % O2. just heard a cardiologist say this will be a marathon and not a sprint. The next few days will be crucial; once they try and take him off the respirator they’ll find out if he can breathe on his own, and if so start assessing neurological and organ damage. 3 1 7 Quote
Andy1 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) CNN has Hamlin story on now Edited January 4, 2023 by Andy1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, AlfaBill said: What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. They said it's usually for really old people like in their late 80s or 90s when they know won't survive it. 1 Quote
Wyobills89 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this. prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain. 7 Quote
The Wiz Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, AlfaBill said: What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. I remember my teacher in lifeguarding class in HS, she said if you don't break a rib you're not doing it hard enough. Hearing them annoying last night that they were "pounding" on his chest makes me think she was right. Luckily, I never needed to learn that lesson the hard way. 1 Quote
wppete Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Not sure if this was posted yet. It’s a little graphic (mods feel free to delete if deemed so) Chris Pronger took a puck to the chest and the same thing happened. Looked very scary. I don’t think he spent time in a hospital over night and played a few games later. 1 Quote
Stads Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR. I've been a nurse 7 years working with geriatric patients and I have never heard this theory make the rounds. If we call a code on someone and they don't have a DNR/DNI, we are doing everything possible to save them 6 1 3 Quote
North Buffalo Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't do CPR. Mostly broken ribs or sternum... i guess if ribs break and puncture a lung it possible but havent seen it in all the cases ive xrayed post Quote
AlfaBill Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wyobills89 said: prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this. prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain. Sorry for your loss. 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Wyobills89 said: prayers to Damar. My dad severed his aorta valve in a vehicle wreck, flighted to denver and they did surgery and repaired it but he went too long with out oxygen to the brain and had no brain activity. we as a family had to make the dicision to take him off life support. i truly hope that having medics right there and performing life saving cpr and defib and oxygen that he will come out of this. prayers #3. i just hope he didnt suffer anything in his brain. Wow. So sorry to hear that. Sorry for your loss. 1 Quote
rajinka Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: What? Fake CPR? I’ve never heard that before. That’s insane if true. I’ve learned how to do chest compression and yes it can break ribs etc but still can save a life. A friend of mine suffered a heart attack just last month. He’s 49 and suffered several dislocated ribs but he’s alive. Yeah that's bs. My wife's an icu nurse, they run codes all the time. Unless there's a dnr they do anything they can to revive the patient. The after affects are dealt with if they're successful. 1 1 Quote
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, Silvercrw said: I have been a board member since 1996-97 and injury to Hamlin as truly shook me. I am also am a Youtuber/filmmaker with multiple channels and I could not, not make this video. I also spoke about this board and inserted a message from one of you. Hope you guys like it.I Can't BELIEVE This HAPPENED | Damar Hamlin Very much sums up what a lot of us are feeling/dealing w today! Thanks for doing this well done!! Quote
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 To be honest. I don’t think there is a better duo I would want leading this team right now For Beane and McDermott 1 6 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, rajinka said: Yeah that's bs. My wife's an icu nurse, they run codes all the time. Unless there's a dnr they do anything they can to revive the patient. The after affects are dealt with if they're successful. I second this. My wife was a nurse for her whole life and blew her own shoulder out trying to resusitate a patient. That ended her career but the patient lived. 2 2 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: I mean this not as a knock on the bengals but a compliment to humanity: I think all 32 franchises and fans would respond similarly they have been great though. Maybe so. However, it is the Bengals team and fans that were there and will forever be linked the Bills and their fans. 2 1 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: To be honest. I don’t think there is a better duo I would want leading this team right now For Beane and McDermott This ^^^^^^^ 2 Quote
prissythecat Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah, from what I heard from nurses, CPR can cause some serious damage...that's why sometimes they don't do it with very old or frail people because the damage it would cause would be too much...said they "fake it" at times when they know they can't If a patients advance directives are for a full code , you bet the nurses and staff will do everything to bring a patient back including sometimes breaking ribs during chest compressions This is patently false . if a patient’s advance directives are for a full code , the medical staff will do everything to try to bring them back during an arrest , including breaking ribs . 3 2 Quote
Silvercrw Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Very much sums up what a lot of us are feeling/dealing w today! Thanks for doing this well done!! Your welcome. I think all of us are feeling this exact same way at this exact moment. Football doesn't even matter anymore when you see something like this happen in front of your eyes. It was a like watching a horror film unfolding in front of our own eyes🙏 Quote
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