ExiledInIllinois Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Here's the Chuck Hughes game... Where they couldn't revive him. The tragedy begins at 8:30. An AED probably would have saved his life. 1971: Buffalo connection with Chuck Hughes, from Wiki: "Hughes had suffered an injury in an August 1971 preseason game against the Buffalo Bills, which led to him collapsing in the locker room. He was hospitalized, but doctors were unable to diagnose what was wrong (suspecting a spleen injury) and he was released, despite never fully recovering. Hughes, who would suffer from what he believed was acid reflux and other maladies for the remaining two months of his life, insisted on continuing to play, saying that the pain he was experiencing was "not that bad." "His widow filed a $21.5 million malpractice lawsuit against Henry Ford Hospital in 1972 for not diagnosing his condition after the Bills game. The lawsuit was settled on October 3, 1974, for an undisclosed amount of money." That's weird...Bills connection... He was 28 and having heart issues! Edited January 5, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Quote
goober Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So just Dawkins has spoken so far? He is the only person I've seen / heard about 🤷♂️ 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Anyone else just coming on here every hour or so, hitting refresh, and holding your breath for any news? 15 8 1 1 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Damar's Chasing M's charity just hit $7,000,000. Wow is all I can say. 3 11 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Success said: Alright. I don't want to cry anymore this week. Uncle! What a heartfelt statement, and so true. I'm thinking about it, and I'm sure we're going to have quite a few battles w/ the Bengals in the years ahead - we'll likely win some, and likely lose some, and they'll probably always be pretty crucial games. But I'm fairly sure I will never have any negative feelings about that team or fanbase or city. There is just a bond between these cities now. Almost completely agree, but they have a few dirty players. Always seem to.. 1 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 I feel giving to charity is the best investment you can ever make. 3 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I feel giving to charity is the best investment you can ever make. i mean that’s not objectively true but I absolutely agree with the sentiment. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 49 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I feel giving to charity is the best investment you can ever make. Typically it’s the only option people have to help. I don’t know if it’s being thought of as an investment. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Here's the Chuck Hughes game... Where they couldn't revive him. The tragedy begins at 8:30. An AED probably would have saved his life. 1971: Buffalo connection with Chuck Hughes, from Wiki: "Hughes had suffered an injury in an August 1971 preseason game against the Buffalo Bills, which led to him collapsing in the locker room. He was hospitalized, but doctors were unable to diagnose what was wrong (suspecting a spleen injury) and he was released, despite never fully recovering. Hughes, who would suffer from what he believed was acid reflux and other maladies for the remaining two months of his life, insisted on continuing to play, saying that the pain he was experiencing was "not that bad." "His widow filed a $21.5 million malpractice lawsuit against Henry Ford Hospital in 1972 for not diagnosing his condition after the Bills game. The lawsuit was settled on October 3, 1974, for an undisclosed amount of money." That's weird...Bills connection... He was 28 and having heart issues! Did they really suspect a spleen injury? Quote
Beck Water Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Apologies if I missed this upthread Pretty cool 13 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So just Dawkins has spoken so far? Yes. Quote
DrPJax Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 I didn’t see this posted , but if so I apologize and mods can delete. I just watched a second video /YouTube podcast by a very talented young critical care specialist and pulmonologist , Dr Mike Hansen. It’s been up just 18 hours , it has a pic of Hamlin with the words ; MEDICAL UPDATE across the thumbnail and the title is : DOCTORS WORK TO GET BILL’S DAMAR BREATHING WITHOUT A VENT. I think it’s a great , concise , hopeful update based on most recent reports coming from an expert in the icu/ critical care medicine. It’s good info for docs to lay people and I expect he will continue the updates. Please check this 5 min , 54 second video out on YouTube. ( His channel has over a mil subscribers. He does great work. Followed him since the epidemic started as he treated many patients and had it himself in moderate severity. His skips jargon and talks using humor when appropriate, and he has no hidden agendas ). This video is great as it confirms the diagnosis, but it really does a fantastic job showing the complications from cpr;the possible development of acute respiratory distress syndrome associated with cardiac arrest ; he mentions two resuscitation attempts; he shows the changes in the lungs on X-ray and why 100% oxygen was needed but is now weaned to 50% ; he discussed Damar being awake before they sedated him and explains in very understandable terms why he is sedated and what to expect ; he shows how prone positioning while sedated helped with the lungs requiring less oxygen (100% oxygen is actually harmful to the lungs. He is on 50% now and we breath 21% oxygen at normal altitudes / sea level ) ; he goes into detail why prone positioning is only safe on a limited basis ( you may remember many Covid pneumonia patients survived with prone positioning while on a vent) ; he uses great diagrams about the use of prone positioning , which has been shown to lower mortality or death rate, ; he describes once patient’s are down to 50% oxygen that’s when Drs start considering putting the patient lying on their back again to prevent pressure ulcers and other complications with using a vent ; proper positioning helps maintain iv lines more easily , especially central lines ( these are Large ivs placed into the subclavian or jugular veins which allows easy access for meds , nutrition , blood draws and monitoring things like central venous pressure which is important in assessing cardiac function and hydration as examples; he explains with lowering the oxygen levels they begin withdrawing the sedation so they can assess brain function ( can’t be done while sedated); finally he repeated the fact that Damar was awake and had to be sedated ( nice having this confirmed by a reputable critical care dr) for ventilator use is a “ telling and very good sign when it comes to the brain. “ No doubt about it he is receiving top notch medical care at the university of Cincinnati medical center , and I remain very optimistic and hopeful that he progresses in his recovery”! Tried to post the link, hope it works. I am working with an iPad Pro and sometimes for the life of me I can’t always find easy ways to post things to here with the iPad OS, but I just use it for teaching ARNP’s , PA’s , Med students , and mostly patients with all the great anatomy appps available for it and it’s so light and portable. 😊. If you have not seen this video or are not familiar with lung issues post arrest , how positioning in vent use works , this is a fantastic 5 min summary of what Damar is going thru and how these issues are solved in a very well diagrammed, fluent discussion by an expert who manages these type of patients daily. Highly recommended. Hope you find this informative Go Bills and Prayers for Damar 2 7 Quote
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) I saw this and had to share: I can't wait... I can't wait until he is well and conscious... I can't wait until he hears the stories... The stories of how an amazing first responder team resurrected his failed heartbeat while millions held their breath... How grown men wept in horror at what they had seen, then dropped to their knees beseeching God to intervene in his behalf... How the Bengals team visited the Bills locker room to encourage and show compassion to his teammates... How much of downtown Cincinnati and the stadium was lit all night in Bills blue to remind people to pray for him... How hundreds of Bengals and Bills fans prayed together by candlelight at University of Cincinnati Medical Center... How $6 million (and counting) have been raised for his children’s charity... How the anchors of ESPN actually bowed their heads and prayed aloud on world wide television for his complete healing... I can't wait for his mother to sit on his bed and tell him all the stories about how God used a young football player to teach a nation what is truly important.. Edited January 5, 2023 by PaulieYayo 3 3 3 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Per wgr they expect. Hamlin update this morning and McDermott will also talk Quote
RunTheBall Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 If it is true that he was conscious before they sedated him that is HUGE 1 1 Quote
CorkScrewHill Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) A couple of videos about Damar (if they are buried above and I missed them sorry) .. 1 is an interview with Maddie and Micah with Damar. 2) Is his draft family video Edited January 5, 2023 by CorkScrewHill 2 1 1 Quote
pennstate10 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, DrPJax said: I didn’t see this posted , but if so I apologize and mods can delete. I just watched a second video /YouTube podcast by a very talented young critical care specialist and pulmonologist , Dr Mike Hansen. It’s been up just 18 hours , it has a pic of Hamlin with the words ; MEDICAL UPDATE across the thumbnail and the title is : DOCTORS WORK TO GET BILL’S DAMAR BREATHING WITHOUT A VENT. I think it’s a great , concise , hopeful update based on most recent reports coming from an expert in the icu/ critical care medicine. It’s good info for docs to lay people and I expect he will continue the updates. Please check this 5 min , 54 second video out on YouTube. ( His channel has over a mil subscribers. He does great work. Followed him since the epidemic started as he treated many patients and had it himself in moderate severity. His skips jargon and talks using humor when appropriate, and he has no hidden agendas ). This video is great as it confirms the diagnosis, but it really does a fantastic job showing the complications from cpr;the possible development of acute respiratory distress syndrome associated with cardiac arrest ; he mentions two resuscitation attempts; he shows the changes in the lungs on X-ray and why 100% oxygen was needed but is now weaned to 50% ; he discussed Damar being awake before they sedated him and explains in very understandable terms why he is sedated and what to expect ; he shows how prone positioning while sedated helped with the lungs requiring less oxygen (100% oxygen is actually harmful to the lungs. He is on 50% now and we breath 21% oxygen at normal altitudes / sea level ) ; he goes into detail why prone positioning is only safe on a limited basis ( you may remember many Covid pneumonia patients survived with prone positioning while on a vent) ; he uses great diagrams about the use of prone positioning , which has been shown to lower mortality or death rate, ; he describes once patient’s are down to 50% oxygen that’s when Drs start considering putting the patient lying on their back again to prevent pressure ulcers and other complications with using a vent ; proper positioning helps maintain iv lines more easily , especially central lines ( these are Large ivs placed into the subclavian or jugular veins which allows easy access for meds , nutrition , blood draws and monitoring things like central venous pressure which is important in assessing cardiac function and hydration as examples; he explains with lowering the oxygen levels they begin withdrawing the sedation so they can assess brain function ( can’t be done while sedated); finally he repeated the fact that Damar was awake and had to be sedated ( nice having this confirmed by a reputable critical care dr) for ventilator use is a “ telling and very good sign when it comes to the brain. “ No doubt about it he is receiving top notch medical care at the university of Cincinnati medical center , and I remain very optimistic and hopeful that he progresses in his recovery”! Tried to post the link, hope it works. I am working with an iPad Pro and sometimes for the life of me I can’t always find easy ways to post things to here with the iPad OS, but I just use it for teaching ARNP’s , PA’s , Med students , and mostly patients with all the great anatomy appps available for it and it’s so light and portable. 😊. If you have not seen this video or are not familiar with lung issues post arrest , how positioning in vent use works , this is a fantastic 5 min summary of what Damar is going thru and how these issues are solved in a very well diagrammed, fluent discussion by an expert who manages these type of patients daily. Highly recommended. Hope you find this informative Go Bills and Prayers for Damar To be clear, this video does not confirm that Hamlin had commotio cordis, nor does it update his condition. The video is a general explanation of commotio cordis and the subsequent treatment options for the condition as patients recover. One bit of new info is the report that uncle said he was awake before being placed in a coma. If that’s correct, that is incredibly good news. Means that he was alert enough to communicate prior to protective coma. Edited January 5, 2023 by pennstate10 Clarify 1 Quote
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Amazing Grace! Pretty cool 2 Quote
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: To be clear, this video does not confirm that Hamlin had commotio cordis, nor does it update his condition. The video is a general explanation of commotio cordis and the subsequent treatment options for the condition as patients recover. Still a hopeful video. Dr Montgomery (cardiologist), on Fox biz news also suggested another possibility based on Damar adjusting his helmet after the play: The hit to the neck/head could have caused a transient brain injury that put him into the unstable heart rhythm. If he was awake pre intubation, that's great news! Edited January 5, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Quote
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