Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: That 10% survival is incredibly misleading because of the delay of medical attention and AED equipment in most cases. Hamlin has immediate professional care and an AED on hand. Survival rate far different if I recall survival for him is around 58% but don't quote me on it. How do you know that in the other 90% of the cases there was a delay of medical attention and AED in those cases? Quote
Beast Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I guess I’ll ask. Who is Lori Chase and does she have medical credentials? Sorry for being ignorant but I have no idea who she is. I take she is saying Damar has a 10% chance of surviving this? Edited January 4, 2023 by Beast Quote
Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said: I doubt VERY much that the youth sports players that died from Commotio Cordis in that study had NFL-game ready support systems (especially doctors and AED's) at their venues. you doubt VERY much, but yet didn't even care to read... To better characterize the clinical profile of this syndrome we have now assembled 69 well-characterized cases, including 34 occurring during organized competitive athletics Seven of the 69 commotio cordis victim’s (10%) survived their cardiac arrest; in 5 of these 7 survivors cardiopulmonary resuscitation by bystanders was particularly prompt (² 1 minute). 3 minutes ago, arcane said: Amazing. But go home and get some rest, Tee. I can't even imagine what he is going through... 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, wppete said: The power of prayer 🙏 is real. All the prayers are making a difference. It’s incredible to see how many believe, it is great. Get well soon Damar 🙏 Everyone loves you. I am a believer and will always profess that Jesus is my Lord & Savior. Prayer works and I continue to pray! 4 3 1 Quote
Bills!Win! Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 After this is over I think Cincinnati will be my second team to root for 4 6 Quote
ArtVandalay Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Reed83HOF said: How do you know that in the other 90% of the cases there was a delay of medical attention and AED in those cases? Because little league games and other youth events don't have a team of physicians on hand and there has been a very popular movement the past 10+ years to get AEDs placed at parks and more areas due to deaths that have occurred. My previous workplace actually installed one and volunteered was selectedto be trained and certified with it. I'm not saying in 90% of the other cases there was no equipment and personnel, however, there commonly is not and that's why the movements for heart healthy communities exist. Let alone the teams and trauma procedures on hand at NFL have just are flat out not there for other events/games and understandably so. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: What’s the survival rate of patients that survived the initial cardiac arrest and made it to the hospital would be my question. Could be wishful thinking but I’d expect demar’s chances to be much better than that currently 1 Quote
Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beast said: I guess I’ll ask. Who is Lori Chase and does she have medical credentials? Sorry for being ignorant but I have no idea who she is. I take she is saying Damar has a 10% chance of surviving this? Look because I post something, doesn't mean I am doing all the homework for everyone - click the link and read the abstract... https://nocsae.org/research-grant-program/research-grants-by-year/the-national-commotio-cordis-registry/ It also doesn't make me an expert or that I am attempting to push any narrative... 1 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Beast said: I guess I’ll ask. Who is Lori Chase and does she have medical credentials? Sorry for being ignorant but I have no idea who she is. I take she is saying Damar has a 10% chance of surviving this? No, she specifically mentions a study on youth sports where 7 of 69 survived. Most of those kids likely didn't get the immediate attention that Damar did. 2 2 Quote
muppy Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: After this is over I think Cincinnati will be my second team to root for Ditto Quote
OZBILLS Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: No, she specifically mentions a study on youth sports where 7 of 69 survived. Most of those kids likely didn't get the immediate attention that Damar did. Which is why they need heaps of easily accessible defibs around Quote
Beast Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Roy Hobbs said: No, she specifically mentions a study on youth sports where 7 of 69 survived. Most of those kids likely didn't get the immediate attention that Damar did. That’s what I gathered but wanted to know who this woman is and why a study about kids and their survivability rate has anything to do with Hamlin and his situation? Not only are children different than adults but Hamlin is a world class athlete that had world class medical attention rendered immediately. 1 1 Quote
Mr Wild Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Lost in the shuffle. What does this mean from a medical person? Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: That 10% survival is incredibly misleading because of the delay of medical attention and AED equipment in most cases. Hamlin has immediate professional care and an AED on hand. Survival rate far different if I recall survival for him is around 58% but don't quote me on it. and then add cpr started within seconds, and a world class athlete that it well tuned to exchange oxygen extremely efficiently… I’m really hopeful Quote
BuffBillsForLife Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Odd to think that a football field would probably be the second "best" place to have something like this happen after a hospital but it's true. Praying for a full recovery. 1 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Mr Wild said: Lost in the shuffle. What does this mean from a medical person? Just like Covid. Just makes it easier to breath and comfortable for his body in whole Quote
Tenhigh Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Silvercrw said: I have been a board member since 1996-97 and injury to Hamlin as truly shook me. I am also am a Youtuber/filmmaker with multiple channels and I could not, not make this video. I also spoke about this board and inserted a message from one of you. Hope you guys like it.I Can't BELIEVE This HAPPENED | Damar Hamlin Great video man. What is that outro song? Quote
Mango Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: That 10% survival is incredibly misleading because of the delay of medical attention and AED equipment in most cases. Hamlin has immediate professional care and an AED on hand. Survival rate far different if I recall survival for him is around 58% but don't quote me on it. It’s been a minute for me, but not thaaaat long. AED’s have always been at all of my events. I think they have to be within something like 300m. Quote
Big Turk Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Wild said: Lost in the shuffle. What does this mean from a medical person? I'm not a medical person but I know that's something they started doing during the initial COVID outbreak to help make it easier for them to breathe while on a vent. Quote
eSJayDee Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Beast said: I guess I’ll ask. Who is Lori Chase and does she have medical credentials? Sorry for being ignorant but I have no idea who she is. I take she is saying Damar has a 10% chance of surviving this? Is she the Lori that used to frequent here before being scared/annoyed off? She was some sort of like small town journalist wasn't she? Quote
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