Low Positive Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) On 1/6/2023 at 5:00 PM, GaryPinC said: Thanks, I'm not a doctor either but the ER doc I work with thought it at least appeared to be a classic example of CC with the way it went down. Certainly we don't know the cause yet, but I have trouble agreeing with your docs that CC recurrence would be an extremely low probability for a professional football player. If they don't have a way to prevent recurrence, I'd say end of career. Expand Chris Pronger had this happen to him and he played 13 more seasons of NHL hockey. Edited January 6, 2023 by FrenchConnection 1 2 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:10 PM, Toledo Bill said: I’ve never seen McDermott give more than a little smile. Ear to ear smile at this press conference 😀 Expand This morning our local San Diego radio guys were playing his audio from yesterday and pumping him up as the Coach of the Year. Quote
GaryPinC Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:52 PM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Everyone is at risk for commotio cordis and it's not something that you can really manage. It's an exceptionally rare combination of being hit with enough force in the exact right spot at the exact right millisecond. If that does end up being the final diagnosis I see no reason why he couldn't return to the NFL. Chris Pronger suffered from commotio cordis in '98 after being hit in the chest with a puck and played in the NHL another 10+ seasons. Expand Thanks, I appreciate the perspective and info. My mistake is looking at it as a individual/genetic susceptibility which I will correct and certainly it makes much more sense he can return. Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:48 PM, BillsFanSD said: To be 100% clear, I'm not a doctor. I'm just going on what I've been by doctors elsewhere. The way it was explained to me is that commotio cordis is a freak injury that has no realistic chance or reoccurrence. Or more technically, Hamlin's chance of suffering such an injury in the future would be no worse than any other player's However, none of those doctors are even remotely convinced that this was commotio cordis. Apparently it's impossible for anyone to have reached such a diagnosis at this point. An undiagnosed heart ailment is possible. A respiratory infection is possible (I don't get it either). We don't know right now. Expand Exactly. They will run a bunch of tests to rule out potential underlying causes, probably starting with an echocardiogram ASAP. If they can't find anything and they come to a determination that it was most likely caused by the hit itself (commotio cordis), then I'd say there's a decent chance that Damar Hamlin is back on the field for training camp, assuming he hasn't suffered any longterm organ damage (for instance, his lungs). Quote
Beast Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 So, I just rounded the numbers here. Get to your calculator and divide 7.8 million by 234k. It may give you chills. 1 18 Quote
34-78-83 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:53 PM, SydneyBillsFan said: ...or have we used up our quota of miracles? Expand Yes, blame @Simon for that Quote
Draconator Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:15 PM, Beast said: So, I just rounded the numbers here. Get to your calculator and divide 7.8 million by 234k. It may give you chills. Expand WOW!!!!!!!!!! 2 1 Quote
Rochesterfan Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) On 1/6/2023 at 5:15 PM, Beast said: So, I just rounded the numbers here. Get to your calculator and divide 7.8 million by 234k. It may give you chills. Expand Sign from above! Edited January 6, 2023 by Rochesterfan 2 1 Quote
Bubba Gump Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:56 PM, Beck Water said: If nothing else, after having a breathing tube shoved down his throat for 3 1/2 days, he has the Granddaddy of All Sore Throats Expand I was in a medically induced coma for five days. When they woke me up, I still had the breathing tube in. I also had to use pencil and paper to communicate. But once they pulled that tube out, yeah it sucked. I ate all the vanilla ice cream they could give me. 6 Quote
Mango Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:53 PM, SydneyBillsFan said: Superbowl - game winning pick 6 ...or have we used up our quota of miracles? Expand I don't set the quota Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) I love all the positive Damar news. Every time I heard Terry Pegula during McDermott and Beane press conferences I thought about Kim. It’s always been Terry and Kim whenever Beane mentioned ownership. He only said Terry today. Stuck out to me. Edited January 6, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 3 Quote
Motorin' Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:25 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love all the positive Damar news. Every time I heard Terry Pegula thanked I thought about Kim. It’s always been Terry and Kim whenever Beane mentioned ownership. He only said Terry today. Stuck out to me. Expand Same as yesterday. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:26 PM, Motorin' said: Same as yesterday. Expand Yeah McDermott only mentioned Terry when talking about ownership. Quote
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:25 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love all the positive Damar news. Every time I heard Terry Pegula thanked I thought about Kim. It’s always been Terry and Kim whenever Beane mentioned ownership. He only said Terry today. Stuck out to me. Expand Hopefully it was because Terry was in Cincy with the team at the time and he may have stayed back with Beane. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:13 PM, TheBrownBear said: Exactly. They will run a bunch of tests to rule out potential underlying causes, probably starting with an echocardiogram ASAP. If they can't find anything and they come to a determination that it was most likely caused by the hit itself (commotio cordis), then I'd say there's a decent chance that Damar Hamlin is back on the field for training camp, assuming he hasn't suffered any longterm organ damage (for instance, his lungs). Expand This is correct, though i'm certain and ECHO was done that night. It would have been standard to get an ECHO right away. Quote
ddaryl Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Damar Hamlin The 1st NFL player to die on the playing field... and live to tell about it Chuck Hughes unfortunately was not as lucky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hughes#:~:text=Charles Frederick Hughes (March 2,the field during a game. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:15 PM, Beast said: So, I just rounded the numbers here. Get to your calculator and divide 7.8 million by 234k. It may give you chills. Expand One of you guys or gals who do twitter should post the image along with that calculation. That is pretty incredible. 1 1 Quote
phypon Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Awesome! Now rub some dirt on it and be ready for the playoffs after the bye week! Just playing, get healthy #3! Very happy you are with all of us. And never do that again!! 1 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:33 PM, RiotAct said: “Damar, quick, what happens if the Chiefs tie the Raiders and then the Bills and Bengals both win on Sunday?” Expand Damn man! I wasn’t even going that far. I’m still confused by “what happens if the Bills lose Sunday?” Quote
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