Anyone else watching other games & daydreaming about how much easier their QB's have it???

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

And the more we move the ball short, the defense will have to come up, opening opportunities for deep passes.

 

I don't agree with this. Allen could check the ball down on literally every play and defenses would still hang everyone back to take away deep passes. No one is ever going to change their game plan against us. Defenses are begging us to run the ball and throw short passes. Ultimately we can't just run the entire offense that way, eventually you need to create explosive plays downfield to consistently score points. So it isn't as easy as people make it out to be for Allen to just take more frequent checkdowns earlier in the play. There's a checkdown available on every single play including the ones that turn into explosive passes.

 

The one thing Allen needs to work on to cut down his interceptions is not locking onto his pre-snap read. Almost all of his interceptions this year have been him pre-determining the read and being a little too lazy after the snap to make sure a defender hasn't gotten into the window. I don't think it's a case of him trying to do too much, it's a focus issue. His focus doesn't seem to be as high against opponents that he deems unworthy.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

QBs who get lots of YAC are taking the checkdown early in the play when there's a 10 yd cushion.

 

I highly doubt checkdowns are the difference in YAC leaders. Most checkdowns get tackled pretty quickly. Some teams run a lot of screens, some teams have YAC specialist players, some teams have both. We have neither. That's the difference. We don't have anyone like Ja'Marr Chase or Deebo Samuel who can catch a 5 yard slant and run 40 yards after the catch. The only way we'll be able to improve our YAC is if we start funneling more pass plays to Cook. Up until now he hasn't had the full trust of the coaching staff to make him a focal point of the offense. Maybe that's changed and we can start dialing up specific plays to get the ball in his hands in space.

[NewEra]

I watch every other game thinking about how much football would suck right now if Josh Allen wasn’t our QB.  

[Billsfan1972]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I watch every other game thinking about how much football would suck right now if Josh Allen wasn’t our QB.  

Thank you Captain Obvious.

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Thank you Captain Obvious.

You’re very welcome.  
 

maybe I should have just answered-  NO

[Billsfan1972]

Still waiting for a highlight or link to a great contested Bills catch.😉

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still waiting for a highlight or link to a great contested Bills catch.😉

 

 

This one is exactly what you have been looking for

 

 

 

 

[Airseven]

Not daydreaming per se, but certainly recognizing Beane’s mistakes, i.e. duped by Saffold, paying and promoting Bates, committing to McKenzie, and of course reaching for a LB in the third round perhaps at Allen’s expense.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Brady is a statue back there and happy to throw his players under the bus. I've watched a lot of Tampa games and often he is getting lots of time and making or missing passes. Take a look at the yards thrown, which is more then Allen.

 

he's always been a statue, but he has always had a very quick release---yet he is tied with Burrow for the 5th most QB knock downs (outside of sacks).

 

His "yards thrown" is more than Allen's..........because he 180 more attempts!  

 

Take a few steps closer to your TV when watch "a lot" of games.

[teef]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

he's always been a statue, but he has always had a very quick release---yet he is tied with Burrow for the 5th most QB knock downs (outside of sacks).

 

His "yards thrown" is more than Allen's..........because he 180 more attempts!  

 

Take a few steps closer to your TV when watch "a lot" of games.

they actually just mentioned this on nfl radio.  tampa doesn't even try to run the ball anymore because they're so bad at it.  it's all brady.

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Our Offensive line isn’t very good. It hasn’t been very good at all. Having Josh Allen has made them look adequate

For 5 years our braintrust has ignored surrounding Josh with a top 5 OL.  Maybe someday that light bulb goes on?

[billsbackto81]

Outside of Mahomes all those you mentioned are statue type QBs. Even Mahomes isn't in the Fields/Jackson/Allen/ Hurts tier of mobile QBs. 

 

Defenses will play those types differently because when the pocket breaks they either check down, get sacked or throw it away. LBs can drop in coverage. No threat of a breakaway 20 yard scamper. 

[Royale with Cheese]

6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Again watching TB & seems Brady has all day and receivers running open.  Stidham throwing for 360 vs. SF and Adams making great catches.  Mahomes a ho hum 330 yard game and again a lot of easy passes.  Goff and Prescott too.

 

Maybe I'm cherry picking, but I seem to see too many great catches & easy throws by QB's, whereas Josh Allen often seems to have to do it all.

 

Am I being too hypercritical of the Bills offense?

 

You really don't watch other games.  Tampa's offensive line has been terrible all year.  Brady has been getting on their asses the entire season.

You watch one game and you drew a conclusion. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Outside of Mahomes all those you mentioned are statue type QBs. Even Mahomes isn't in the Fields/Jackson/Allen/ Hurts tier of mobile QBs. 

 

Defenses will play those types differently because when the pocket breaks they either check down, get sacked or throw it away. LBs can drop in coverage. No threat of a breakaway 20 yard scamper. 

 

say what??  he's absolutely and extremely mobile.  the team doesn't ask him to run by design--which isn't the topic here anyway.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

One issue to me is that Josh is just not hitting the long ball cleanly.  He underthrew SmokeY and McKittrick (for the INT).  I'd rather see him overthrow them once in a while to avoid the bad result.  The other issue is that our WR's/TE's just aren't making plays consistently.  Dropped balls, poor/incorrect routes, no YAC, none of which is on Josh.  Yet we keep winning.  If we eliminate the mistakes, we're going to dominate and win by 2-4 TD's again.  I'm looking for that tonight. 

Disagree. His issue with the long ball in the past was overthrowing wide open guys. I'd rather he give our guys the chance to fight for the ball. He has also thrown a few nice back shoulder balls to Davis.

His issue is not taking the check down and/or not throwing it away in the red zone. 

[Billsfan1972]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You really don't watch other games.  Tampa's offensive line has been terrible all year.  Brady has been getting on their asses the entire season.

You watch one game and you drew a conclusion. 

Actually I do & the stats above show they have been just fine pass blocking.  Doesn't fit your narrative though.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

For 5 years our braintrust has ignored surrounding Josh with a top 5 OL.  Maybe someday that light bulb goes on?

It's not as if Beane hasn't tried.  Morse, Williams. Saffold, Ford, Brown, and Bates all signed to decent money and/or drafted in the early rounds. Have to wonder about the coaching. They kept putting Ford out there and didn't start Bates until like week 10 last year and that was only due to injury. They of course also let Teller go. Then when Morse goes down in Miami they don't move Bates over to C. 

WR and OL early and often in the draft next year. 

[folz]

"Our team would suck without Josh and Diggs."

 

But you know what? The Chiefs would suck without Mahomes and Kelce, the Bengals would suck without Burrow and Chase, the Eagles would suck without Hurts and Brown (see yesterday's game), etc., etc.

 

"Did you see the TB game yesterday? Brady's WRs are just running free all the time. every other Qb has it easier than Josh."

 

Yet Josh has 8 more TD passes than Brady on the year, despite playing one game less. And sure, Brady currently has 581 passing yards more than Josh, but that is with one more game (Josh will probably close that gap to about 300 yards tonight) and on 180 attempts more than Josh. Why does he have so many more attempts? Because at 8-8, TB has been behind/losing a lot more than the Bills this year and had to throw a lot at the end of games (see yesterday's game). And you're using a QB in his first start ever (Stidham) on a 6-10 team to explain why the Bills suck? With no context. There was no film on this guy, his team probably rallied around him, did the Niners have injuries on their defense, etc.? Do you really think Stidham would be able to do that consistently when Carr couldn't with that team?

 

Dude, you have been making this same post every week. And yes, you are definitely cherry picking. If you paid as much attention to other teams as you do the Bills, you would see drops, interceptions, bad throws by QBs, lots of 3 and outs and punts, etc. Josh has 13 INTs. There are 5 QBs with the same or more INTs. Mahomes and Burrow both have 12 INTs (only one less than Josh). 

 

I mean, what if the Bills were down 4 points to the 4-12 Broncos in the 4th quarter (Chiefs yesterday), what if the Bills were down 14 points in the 4th quarter to the 6-10 Panthers (TB yesterday), how about losing by 24 to the 7-8 Packers (Vikings yesterday), down by 3 points to the 6-10 Raiders in the last minutes of the game and then needing OT to beat them (SF yesterday), or losing by 10 to the 7-9 Saints (Eagles---if our QB didn't play)...you and this board would be totally imploding with any of those scenarios. Yet, since those are not your teams, you just look at final score and stats and highlights, and say look everyone else is better than we are. But if you were actually a fan of those teams, you would be going through the same roller-coaster ride that you are as a Bills fan.

 

I swear, some of you would be complaining right up to the last second of a Super Bowl victory. And fine, then you get to celebrate, but you know what, you will have missed a hell of a lot of fun along the way. It is the journey, not the destination my friend.

 

In the offseason we can discuss how to fix the O-line and WRs, etc., but there isn't anything to be done about it right now. This is the 2022 Buffalo Bills team, like it or not. Why not root for the guys and enjoy their victories, rather than whine and moan that every other team is better than we are and our players suck. Which isn't actually true. With a win tonight, we would be tied for the best record in the league and be first place in our conference. Josh is a huge reason why (we all know that), but by no means has he done it alone.

 

I have no problem discussing what is wrong with certain areas of our team or what needs to be improved, etc. But the OP's posts very rarely have any content other than "I watch other games and everyone else is better than we are. Our players suck except for Josh." It is the same post every week. That is not discussion, that is complaining. And the complaints don't even ring true because, as he said himself, he is cherry picking.

[TH3]

58 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still waiting for a highlight or link to a great contested Bills catch.😉

Pick another team to root for...and find your happiness

[Billsfan1972]

24 minutes ago, folz said:

"Our team would suck without Josh and Diggs."

 

But you know what? The Chiefs would suck without Mahomes and Kelce, the Bengals would suck without Burrow and Chase, the Eagles would suck without Hurts and Brown (see yesterday's game), etc., etc.

 

"Did you see the TB game yesterday? Brady's WRs are just running free all the time. every other Qb has it easier than Josh."

 

Yet Josh has 8 more TD passes than Brady on the year, despite playing one game less. And sure, Brady currently has 581 passing yards more than Josh, but that is with one more game (Josh will probably close that gap to about 300 yards tonight) and on 180 attempts more than Josh. Why does he have so many more attempts? Because at 8-8, TB has been behind/losing a lot more than the Bills this year and had to throw a lot at the end of games (see yesterday's game). And you're using a QB in his first start ever (Stidham) on a 6-10 team to explain why the Bills suck? With no context. There was no film on this guy, his team probably rallied around him, did the Niners have injuries on their defense, etc.? Do you really think Stidham would be able to do that consistently when Carr couldn't with that team?

 

Dude, you have been making this same post every week. And yes, you are definitely cherry picking. If you paid as much attention to other teams as you do the Bills, you would see drops, interceptions, bad throws by QBs, lots of 3 and outs and punts, etc. Josh has 13 INTs. There are 5 QBs with the same or more INTs. Mahomes and Burrow both have 12 INTs (only one less than Josh). 

 

I mean, what if the Bills were down 4 points to the 4-12 Broncos in the 4th quarter (Chiefs yesterday), what if the Bills were down 14 points in the 4th quarter to the 6-10 Panthers (TB yesterday), how about losing by 24 to the 7-8 Packers (Vikings yesterday), down by 3 points to the 6-10 Raiders in the last minutes of the game and then needing OT to beat them (SF yesterday), or losing by 10 to the 7-9 Saints (Eagles---if our QB didn't play)...you and this board would be totally imploding with any of those scenarios. Yet, since those are not your teams, you just look at final score and stats and highlights, and say look everyone else is better than we are. But if you were actually a fan of those teams, you would be going through the same roller-coaster ride that you are as a Bills fan.

 

I swear, some of you would be complaining right up to the last second of a Super Bowl victory. And fine, then you get to celebrate, but you know what, you will have missed a hell of a lot of fun along the way. It is the journey, not the destination my friend.

 

In the offseason we can discuss how to fix the O-line and WRs, etc., but there isn't anything to be done about it right now. This is the 2022 Buffalo Bills team, like it or not. Why not root for the guys and enjoy their victories, rather than whine and moan that every other team is better than we are and our players suck. Which isn't actually true. With a win tonight, we would be tied for the best record in the league and be first place in our conference. Josh is a huge reason why (we all know that), but by no means has he done it alone.

 

I have no problem discussing what is wrong with certain areas of our team or what needs to be improved, etc. But the OP's posts very rarely have any content other than "I watch other games and everyone else is better than we are. Our players suck except for Josh." It is the same post every week. That is not discussion, that is complaining. And the complaints don't even ring true because, as he said himself, he is cherry picking.

This is the Bills and were the preseason favourites.  I no longer compare the Buffalo Bills with the teams below them in the standings. Let's be honest the Bills have Josh Allen the other teams do not.

 

Tired of everyone doing the comparisons and 12-3 arguments.  You know what?  I don't care I think the Bills are better.

 

I used the Tampa Bay game yesterday and saw Evans running free for three long touchdowns. We haven't seen that in a long time from the bills. I can't remember the last long pass (simple fly pattern) they completed unless it is Davis vs Pittsburgh.

 

And yes Allen is much better than Brady right now. I'm pointing out things that I am seeing.  SF is now being talked as the best defense in football and look what Stidham did against them yesterday.

 

Nothing will make me happier than to come here tomorrow and talk about the great catches and long passes from yesterday's game and WIN.

 

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Billsfan1972