The Jests; from 7-4 to 7-9. An epic collapse

[Reks Ryan]

It's great because the Dolphins have had their own epic collapse, also losing 5 in a row to go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8.   I think the Dolphins collapse is even worse b/c there plenty of people saying they would overtake the Bills and win the division.     Don't think any reasonable person was picking the Jets to win hte division. 

 

Funny thing is that 1 of them is going to win next week. 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

Do you really trust Derek Carr as a starting QB?  He can play brilliantly but he can also play ….um, not brilliantly

Yes. He played consistent quality football for years despite playing for a weird franchise, until they hired McDaniels.

 

He's been in the WCO his whole career, they hired McDaniels and had him learn the Erhardt-Perkins system and playcalling language. Get him away from the mercurial McDaniels and back into the WCO and there is every reason to expect high-level play.

[Malazan]

12 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

Say more about this, because I have the impression that Saleh is a man of pretty deep integrity and would have sorted this kind of thing before he signed on.

 

I could be totally wrong of course

 

Saleh cares a lot about his image. He gets upset by fan/media comments and changes the way he does things because of it. Statements like, "We'll see them again in the playoffs." and "I'm keeping receipts" are 'fake tough guy' acts. The whole running the stairs before games stuff. It's all a big act. He'll take orders and change coordinators if he's told to do so like he's been doing at QB. Jets fan liken him to Todd Bowles. 

 

Now, my view is that while it may discussed he won't be asked to change coordinators by Douglas or Woody.

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Yes. He played consistent quality football for years despite playing for a weird franchise, until they hired McDaniels.

 

He's been in the WCO his whole career, they hired McDaniels and had him learn the Erhardt-Perkins system and playcalling language. Get him away from the mercurial McDaniels and back into the WCO and there is every reason to expect high-level play.

 

OK, fair POV

 

He wouldn’t be the first QB whose performance was significantly downgraded by contact with McDaniels

[GunnerBill]

36 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Yeah but I can’t see Saleh going anywhere. He’s done a solid job… he’ll sacrifice the OC… not that he’s done much of note to retain his job. 

 

This isn't a normal HC - OC sacrifice though. They are really tight. Matt LaFleur was the best man at Saleh's wedding. Mike obviously is the brother, he goes back years with them. 

 

I actually think there is a case for an OC change, but equally - no QB, Hall, Becton and AVT all down. It's a tough gig. 

20 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Do you really trust Derek Carr as a starting QB?  He can play brilliantly but he can also play ….um, not brilliantly

 

As a starting QB? Absolutely. As a guy who can get you to the playoffs with that defense and some semi decent weapons? 100%. As a guy who can win them a Superbowl? No, maybe not. But at the moment Carr feels the logical fit in New York rather than spinning the rookie wheel again. 

[ExWNYer]

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

The GangGreen is a five alarm fire right now. They want to fire the owner, fire the GM, fire the coach, fire half the players, fire the ball boy.  One poster said the Jests can't even draft QBs right and they lost two draft picks because of it. 

 

The entire Jests Nation is on tilt.  They're wearing white after Labor Day and combining plaids and stripes.  They're fighting a land war in Asia.  They're taking wooden nickels.  They're crying over spilt milk.  They're cutting tags off mattresses. They're starving a cold and stuffing a fever.  They're paying $20,000 for Taylor Swift tickets.  They're eating gas station sushi.  They're running with scissors.  They're smoking with their oxygen on.  One of them just killed John Wick's dog.

 

It's Biblical.

 

Don't take my word for it.....

 

https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/woody-johnson-f-ck-you-trust-fund-baby.98496/

https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/who-is-getting-fired-on-this-staff.98497/

https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/well-so-much-for-this-season.98489/

 

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

It's great because the Dolphins have had their own epic collapse, also losing 5 in a row to go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8.   I think the Dolphins collapse is even worse b/c there plenty of people saying they would overtake the Bills and win the division.     Don't think any reasonable person was picking the Jets to win hte division. 

 

Funny thing is that 1 of them is going to win next week. 

 

Yeah, I actually had to go look because I thought people would blame that 5 game losing streak on playing without Tua.  

But 4 of the 5 losses were 100% Tua.

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

Why does the human race love other peoples pain so much? lol

[Mark Vader]

48 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

It would be very jets like to have the owner interfere in the middle of their rebuild that seems to be going in the right direction lol

Jets gonna Jets

[Dr.Sack]

Sauce Gardener just not getting enough pick 6s as the Jets had planned on. 

[Big Blitz]

The Giants have shown the Dolphins and Jets are much more then a QB away.  
 

Everything starts at the top.   
 

The Jets tho are much closer then Miami.  And by closer I mean closer to just making the playoffs.  

[JerseyBills]

That's a depressing forum. Def has early 2010 Bills vibes. 

God bless McBeane and Co.  for not putting us through that anymore 

[BuffaloBills1998]

7 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Sauce Gardener just not getting enough pick 6s as the Jets had planned on. 

That dude gets away with more PI’s then any other corner that I’ve seen. If he’s not committing PI’s then he’s getting burned

[Sestak4ever]

It's the Paul Macguire curse. Back in 1986, on national television, he predicted the 10-1 Jets would not win another game. He was blasted by his fellow commentators. The Jets lost their last 5 games just as he predicted. It was amazing. Macguire was great.

[BuffaloBills1998]

1 hour ago, ExWNYer said:

 

 

It’s funny how they haven’t had a QB since him. They haven’t had a franchise QB since movies like Peckinpah’s Wild Bunch and Bonnie and Clyde were popular. 

[purple haze]

3 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

They have talent on D, but they DO NOT have a lot of talent on offense.

 

Their only WR that scares anyone is a rookie, the only RB that scares anyone has been injured since October, they have no QB and their OL stinks.

 

They are still light years away from challenging the Bills in any capacity. 

Nah. If they get a legit QB they will be a bigger issue than they already are.  There’s the coming draft and Free agency too; the Bills might lose Poyer and Edmunds and others.    Don’t play the Jets cheap.  Decent QB play can get them in the mix.

[AlfaBill]

Cutting tags off of mattresses is tight!

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

It would be very jets like to have the owner interfere in the middle of their rebuild that seems to be going in the right direction lol

Im torn. As a football fan, its frustrating to see stupidity on that level (Texans Bill O'Brien). As a Bills fan, itd be funny and solidify another 3 years of breezing to AFCE Champs

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Reks Ryan said:

It's great because the Dolphins have had their own epic collapse, also losing 5 in a row to go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8.   I think the Dolphins collapse is even worse b/c there plenty of people saying they would overtake the Bills and win the division.     Don't think any reasonable person was picking the Jets to win hte division. 

 

Funny thing is that 1 of them is going to win next week. 

Key difference is that when they were 7-4 and 8-3, both teams played an easy schedule.  When they started playing tough teams, they got exposed.

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Locomark said:

They have a ton of talent on both sides. If that team gets a QB, they will easily stay past the Pats for many years and could rival Miami. Maybe they just arm themselves with Jimmy G or Carr and take a shot it works out next year. 

It sounds good but just remember one thing..........they're the Jets.