Why don’t the Bills DB’s “chuck” receivers?

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/2/2023 at 1:56 AM, Orlando Tim said:

Chucking recievers is generally used when you are doing man to man and leaving DBs on island. I do wonder if we will use it some this week on Higgins due to rotating the defense towards Chase who is scary good 

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It's another reason they don't do it often at all. QBs can read it. The Bills don't like to give more pre-snap info than they have to.

[Dr.Sack]

Good point OP.

Being that an offense can only have a max of 5 eligible receivers on a play it would be ideal to blast as many receivers as possible at the LOS and keep 2 safeties back in a zone, in the event the DL can’t get to the QB.  

 

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/2/2023 at 6:52 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea Levi has admitted he played his assignment incorrectly. Doesn't mean the call was the right one, but there was definitely an execution break down.

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Levi said when admitting what happened that it was the right call and if played right would have been stopped for a short gain.

[Not at the table Karlos]

  On 1/2/2023 at 1:06 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it is amazing how Jaire Alexander has suddenly come out of nowhere. This guy talks the best trash and is seriously legit. Where has he been these last 5 years in the NFL?

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The question should be where have you been for the last 5 years. Alexander has been good. 

  On 1/2/2023 at 8:15 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It's another reason they don't do it often at all. QBs can read it. The Bills don't like to give more pre-snap info than they have to.

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Then show bump and bail. We do this pretty often. 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos

[ALLEN1QB]

Basically they just don't give a Chuck!

[Einstein]

  On 1/2/2023 at 6:21 AM, NewEra said:

It’s ok if you’re not sure.  It happened.  Ask Levi

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Gotcha. Didn’t realize Levi admitted it.

In that case, he must have played it incorrectly multiple times. Kelce saw it.

[Einstein]

I’ve been trying to find where Levi admitted he played the coverage wrong. Does anyone know where he said it? This article and comments by Levi seem to indicate the exact opposite. That he played it as the coaches told him to.

 

 

[NewEra]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:01 PM, Einstein said:

I’ve been trying to find where Levi admitted he played the coverage wrong. Does anyone know where he said it? This article and comments by Levi seem to indicate the exact opposite. That he played it as the coaches told him to.

 

 

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We’ve all seen the video man.  It’s old news. 

[Mr. WEO]

  On 1/2/2023 at 5:12 AM, Einstein said:

 

I do agree about Edmunds for Kelce.

 

Have Edmunds manhandle Kelce and then pass him off to a CB while Edmunds runs back to the middle of the field that he typically covers.

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He's had plenty of opportunity

[Einstein]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:17 PM, NewEra said:

We’ve all seen the video man.  It’s old news. 

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He admitted on video? Can you link me? I didn’t see and I can’t find it.

 

Levi’s comments in the article you quoted clearly contradict what you’re stating he said. 

[Royale with Cheese]

  On 1/2/2023 at 1:31 AM, Einstein said:

 

Never saw that before. Great vid. I noticed it was from 3 seasons ago - Have they done it this year at all?

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Tre got burned by Hill two weeks ago.

Tre whiffed and Hill ran right by him.

[Einstein]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:35 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

Tre got burned by Hill two weeks ago.

Tre whiffed and Hill ran right by him.

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That wasn’t a chuck (or a chuck attempt). Tre just extended 1 arm out in press.

[NewEra]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:29 PM, Einstein said:

 

He admitted on video? Can you link me? I didn’t see and I can’t find it.

 

Levi’s comments in the article you quoted clearly contradict what you’re stating he said. 

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He says that he took his teammates for granted.  He admitted that he didn’t know what his teammates were doing because he didn’t take 1 second pre snap to turn and look at where his teammates were aligned.  That misalignment threw off the entire play.  He hugged the sideline as if the chiefs had no timeouts.  Like a fool…..because he took things for granted prior to what will be the biggest play of his career.

[Einstein]

  On 1/2/2023 at 3:11 PM, NewEra said:

He says that he took his teammates for granted.  He admitted that he didn’t know what his teammates were doing because he didn’t take 1 second pre snap to turn and look at where his teammates were aligned.  That misalignment threw off the entire play.  He hugged the sideline as if the chiefs had no timeouts.  Like a fool…..because he took things for granted prior to what will be the biggest play of his career.

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Thanks for finding the video. It seems to echo what he said in the article above. Only thing he took blame for was being too deep because he didn’t look at Poyer. I thought by your comment earlier that he admitted more than that.

 

As the article above stated, he says he played it as the coaches drew up and he only wishes he looked at Poyers depth.

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/2/2023 at 9:49 AM, Not at the table Karlos said:

The question should be where have you been for the last 5 years. Alexander has been good. 

Then show bump and bail. We do this pretty often. 

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Showing bump and bailing tells the same thing that showing bump and bumping does. Unless you're bailing way before the snap, and if you're doing that, why bother.

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:01 PM, Einstein said:

I’ve been trying to find where Levi admitted he played the coverage wrong. Does anyone know where he said it? This article and comments by Levi seem to indicate the exact opposite. That he played it as the coaches told him to.

 

 

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That shaded bit is nonsense. Wallace did this interview long after he was a Pittsburgh Steeler.

 

The interviewer even asks if it's OK to ask about this.

 

  On 1/2/2023 at 3:41 PM, Einstein said:

Thanks for finding the video. It seems to echo what he said in the article above. Only thing he took blame for was being too deep because he didn’t look at Poyer. I thought by your comment earlier that he admitted more than that.

 

As the article above stated, he says he played it as the coaches drew up and he only wishes he looked at Poyers depth.

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And again, no. He wasn't too deep. He specifically said he was too far outside. Yes, he should have looked at Poyer's depth, but didn't. No, that does not automatically mean that he was adjusting his own depth.  He was defending mostly the outside, as the film shows. Poyer was way too deep to cover the inside on that play, he was covering only against a Hail Mary. "We have to defend outside, and we have to defend that little bang route that he ran." He says that if he'd known Poyer was that deep, he "would have scooted in or I'd have pressed it." 

 

 

And, when you google "Levi Wallace 13 seconds", it's like seven of the first ten links to come up. Google is your friend.

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[NewEra]

  On 1/2/2023 at 3:41 PM, Einstein said:

Thanks for finding the video. It seems to echo what he said in the article above. Only thing he took blame for was being too deep because he didn’t look at Poyer. I thought by your comment earlier that he admitted more than that.

 

As the article above stated, he says he played it as the coaches drew up and he only wishes he looked at Poyers depth.

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Lol…… I should have known better than to engage.

 

/disengage

[Thurman#1]

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:11 PM, NewEra said:

Lol…… I should have known better than to engage.

 

/disengage

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Yup. You're nice enough to do his googling for him and then you see the weird interpretations that follow.

[Royale with Cheese]

  On 1/2/2023 at 2:47 PM, Einstein said:

 

That wasn’t a chuck (or a chuck attempt). Tre just extended 1 arm out in press.

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It's because he was beat and keeping Tre off balance.  Do you honestly think Tre was just trying to put on hand on him to guide him?....what does accomplish in press?

You're trying to knock him off his route.  Tre got beat.  

 

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:11 PM, NewEra said:

Lol…… I should have known better than to engage.

 

/disengage

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Yeah I'm out too.

[Einstein]

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:02 PM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

That shaded bit is nonsense. Wallace did this interview long after he was a Pittsburgh Steeler.

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So you’re ignoring what Levi actually said in favor of what you think he meant?

 

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:02 PM, Thurman#1 said:

And again, no. He wasn't too deep. He specifically said he was too far outside. Yes, he should have looked at Poyer's depth, but didn't. 

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He said he ran it the way the coaches drew up, but if he had looked at Poyer he would have altered.

 

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:02 PM, Thurman#1 said:

And, when you google "Levi Wallace 13 seconds", it's like seven of the first ten links to come up. Google is your friend.

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I did google. I googled “levi wallace admits he played assignment incorrectly”. What DID come up is Levi Wallace saying be played it the way the coaches wanted him to.

 

 

  On 1/2/2023 at 4:11 PM, NewEra said:

Lol…… I should have known better than to engage.

 

/disengage

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That’s a good idea. Especially if you’re going to ignore Levi Wallace saying he did what the coaches told him to do.

 

“Let me ignore what Levi Wallace actually said in favor of an obscure video from 8 months ago where he talks about not looking at Poyer”

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Edited January 2, 2023 by Einstein