Einstein Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 This is not a complaint, just a question. Trying to learn if perhaps there is a good reason why we don’t. It makes sense to me that if you chuck the opponents receivers, it can disrupt timing routes and timing offenses. It can make a QB hold onto the ball for an extra half second and that can be the difference between a sack and a completion. But the most i’ve seen the Bills defense do is play press. I can’t recall seeing them get physical and chuck the WR. Is there a reason why? 3 3 3 Quote
WotAGuy Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 Bills are primarily a zone team, so they play off, typically. You need a specific skill set to bump or disrupt a receiver so that may play into it too. 7 3 Quote
JimmyNoodles Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 They should. They’re risk averse. 9 2 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Einstein said: This is not a complaint, just a question. Trying to learn if perhaps there is a good reason why we don’t. It makes sense to me that if you chuck the opponents receivers, it can disrupt timing routes and timing offenses. It can make a QB hold onto the ball for an extra half second and that can be the difference between a sack and a completion. But the most i’ve seen the Bills defense do is play press. I can’t recall seeing them get physical and chuck the WR. Is there a reason why? it is amazing how Jaire Alexander has suddenly come out of nowhere. This guy talks the best trash and is seriously legit. Where has he been these last 5 years in the NFL? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/tredavious-white-set-the-tone-early-welcome-to-the-nfl-chase-claypool-via-brian-/199701501705723/ 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it is amazing how Jaire Alexander has suddenly come out of nowhere. This guy talks the best trash and is seriously legit. Where has he been these last 5 years in the NFL? Err... he has been one of the best corners in the game for 3 seasons. He had a middling first couple of years but he majorly broke out in 2020 and has been a stud since. 5 7 1 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Err... he has been one of the best corners in the game for 3 seasons. He had a middling first couple of years but he majorly broke out in 2020 and has been a stud since. I don’t think he has gotten the same type of publicity as the other elite CB’s. For the casual fan, the guys you always hear about are Ramsey, Diggs, Howard, Slay. Even guys like JC Jackson seem to have gotten more press over the last few years. Maybe I have been living under a rock, though?! 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I don’t think he has gotten the same type of publicity as the other elite CB’s. For the casual fan, the guys you always hear about are Ramsey, Diggs, Howard, Slay. Even guys like JC Jackson seem to have gotten more press over the last few years. Maybe I have been living under a rock, though?! I think it might be you. Might also be that most of the air time on Green Bay is sucked by the attention seeking prima dona they have at Quarterback. 1 1 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 I hav been frustrated that we tend to leave Kelce alone in particular. Being extremely physical with him at the line is the best way to try and control him. 7 4 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 2, 2023 Author Posted January 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/tredavious-white-set-the-tone-early-welcome-to-the-nfl-chase-claypool-via-brian-/199701501705723/ Never saw that before. Great vid. I noticed it was from 3 seasons ago - Have they done it this year at all? Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Never saw that before. Great vid. I noticed it was from 3 seasons ago - Have they done it this year at all? They have done it less since Tre got hurt last year. Partly because they have been trying to protect their less experienced and talented corners. 1 2 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Never saw that before. Great vid. I noticed it was from 3 seasons ago - Have they done it this year at all? I know it was from the past but I actually had it saved lol we do try occasionally… the only problem is tre is coming back from injury … and getting his hands on guys at the LoS is still a work in progress It’s very hit or miss at the NFL level with that aggressiveness… if you don’t get successful hands you will get burned Dane doesn’t really have the ability… Elam does 2 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 If you bump the receiver you better divert him inside. If you allow them to get past you up the seam you're cooked against someone like Burrow. Is that a chance you want to take with Hamlin back there? 3 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 Bills don’t have physical CBs like that. 3 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 Chucking recievers is generally used when you are doing man to man and leaving DBs on island. I do wonder if we will use it some this week on Higgins due to rotating the defense towards Chase who is scary good Quote
SCBills Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills don’t have physical CBs like that. Kaiir Elam played extremely physical at Florida. Maybe if we actually gave him playing time, he’d have the experience/trust for the staff to let him go out and do some of this stuff. 6 1 1 Quote
Brand J Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: Kaiir Elam played extremely physical at Florida. Maybe if we actually gave him playing time, he’d have the experience/trust for the staff to let him go out and do some of this stuff. Why play our first round CB when we can continue to see Dane Jackson get cooked down after down? 2 2 2 Quote
MAJBobby Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: This is not a complaint, just a question. Trying to learn if perhaps there is a good reason why we don’t. It makes sense to me that if you chuck the opponents receivers, it can disrupt timing routes and timing offenses. It can make a QB hold onto the ball for an extra half second and that can be the difference between a sack and a completion. But the most i’ve seen the Bills defense do is play press. I can’t recall seeing them get physical and chuck the WR. Is there a reason why? Primarily a Zone team 1. when in man I have seen our DBs try and get hands on at the line. Sometimes they do sometimes they don’t. Elam seems to be the best at it. Quote
Joe Ferguson Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 Why didn't we chuck Hill and Kelce during the 13 seconds debacle? 1 1 Quote
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