LeviF Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Why don't you want to prove me wrong and then you can gloat? Have you ever read Malcolm X’s autobiography? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeviF said: Have you ever read Malcolm X’s autobiography? pls summarize the parts you find relevant.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Sure. you need to live in the inner city to have an opinion. Moron. You think you need to live in the inner city to know people that aren’t white? Wtf is wrong with you people? 2
Tommy Callahan Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 42 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You think you need to live in the inner city to know people that aren’t white? Wtf is wrong with you people? you don't need to live in an inner city to find people that are diverse. but cities are often much more diverse than rural or suburban. I find it funny that the planners and people that advocate for mass this and mass that, and how great they are. Tend to OWN their own property and are not into sharing services like transportation and what not. And tend to live outside the cities. Or in some high rise in the city, with many levels of separation between them and the plebs. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You think you need to live in the inner city to know people that aren’t white? Wtf is wrong with you people? does visiting Jamaica count? I figured not. med school was a long time ago. about 15% black classmates. less than that in most communities I've lived. so what? still waiting for an answer on whether one group, both groups or neither group are bad for America.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Chris farley said: you don't need to live in an inner city to find people that are diverse. but cities are often much more diverse than rural or suburban. I find it funny that the planners and people that advocate for mass this and mass that, and how great they are. Tend to OWN their own property and are not into sharing services like transportation and what not. And tend to live outside the cities. Or in some high rise in the city, with many levels of separation between them and the plebs. Agreed, the soft bigotry of low expectations…. Tends to be the origin of most leftist thought on the topic. 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Chris farley said: but cities are often much more diverse than rural or suburban. yup. hence some of the difference in voting between rural and urban 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Agreed, the soft bigotry of low expectations…. Tends to be the origin of most leftist thought on the topic. nope. I hope for everyone to do well. Don't wish failure on anyone. That's more the mantra. happy, smiling, peaceful people..like in the old coke ad "I'd like to teach the world to sing". Aim high...idealism is good. Edited March 23, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
LeviF Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, redtail hawk said: pls summarize the parts you find relevant. No. As you may have gathered, you can find the doctrine in many NOI texts. I suggest reading starting with Malcolm X's autobiography (which admittedly at that point in his life was NOT a NOI text but a story of his journey to orthodox islam) and Elijah Muhammed's Message to the Blackman in America. Five percenters believe the same. Is Wu-Tang for the children? Well I guess that depends on who you ask. According to Supreme Mathematics, perhaps they are. As an aside, it's a shame that the USG promoted MLK as controlled opposition, because the hero black people needed was Malcolm X. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, LeviF said: Have you ever read Malcolm X’s autobiography? not wasting my time. Nation of Islam is bad for America. Most definitely. Still drinking my first coffee so NOI came back as "net operating income".🤣 https://www.adl.org/resources/profile/nation-islam So what about the proud boys? Edited March 23, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: Elijah Muhammed's Message to the Blackman in America is pure hate speech. DR big head or "Yakab" making evil demons on an island? "the beliefs of the Nation of Islam (NOI), Yakub (sometimes spelled Yacub or Yaqub) was a black scientist who lived 6,600 years ago and began the creation of the white race. He is said to have done this through a form of selective breeding which is referred to as "grafting", while he was living on the island of Patmos. The Nation of Islam's theology states that Yakub is the biblical Jacob." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Shabazz The tribe of Shabazz. Its similar to the Mormons story of the tribes that exapted and came to America. but without the overt racism. "The Tribe of Shabazz (Arabic: قَبِيلَة ٱلشَّبَازّ, romanized: qabīlah ash-shabāzz) was, according to the Nation of Islam, a supposed ancient black nation that migrated into central Africa, led by a leader named Shabazz. The concept is found primarily in the writings of Wallace Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad. According to the Autobiography of Malcolm X, all the races except the white race were descendants of the Tribe of Shabazz." 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: not wasting my time. Nation of Islam is bad for America. Most definitely. Still drinking my first coffee so NOI came back as "net operating income".🤣 https://www.adl.org/resources/profile/nation-islam So what about the proud boys? NOI is HQ in Detroit and has 50K strong in that state alone. pretty sure all 9 proud boys are locked up in a jail someplace near DC. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 I do thank you all for educating me on black racist groups. Never heard of the 5 percenters. Almost as crazy as space lasers. I reject them all. Doesn't change my stance on white supremacist groups. Hate groups suck and are destructive. 1
Doc Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: is pure hate speech. DR big head or "Yakab" making evil demons on an island? "the beliefs of the Nation of Islam (NOI), Yakub (sometimes spelled Yacub or Yaqub) was a black scientist who lived 6,600 years ago and began the creation of the white race. He is said to have done this through a form of selective breeding which is referred to as "grafting", while he was living on the island of Patmos. The Nation of Islam's theology states that Yakub is the biblical Jacob." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Shabazz The tribe of Shabazz. Its similar to the Mormons story of the tribes that exapted and came to America. but without the overt racism. "The Tribe of Shabazz (Arabic: قَبِيلَة ٱلشَّبَازّ, romanized: qabīlah ash-shabāzz) was, according to the Nation of Islam, a supposed ancient black nation that migrated into central Africa, led by a leader named Shabazz. The concept is found primarily in the writings of Wallace Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad. According to the Autobiography of Malcolm X, all the races except the white race were descendants of the Tribe of Shabazz." NOI is HQ in Detroit and has 50K strong in that state alone. pretty sure all 9 proud boys are locked up in a jail someplace near DC. And some like to laugh at Mormons (admittedly with good reason)... 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: I do thank you all for educating me on black racist groups. Never heard of the 5 percenters. Almost as crazy as space lasers. I reject them all. Doesn't change my stance on white supremacist groups. Hate groups suck and are destructive. but actually, exist and make victims. Any of those groups got HQ and 50K long role counts? I see they have 3 HQ now. even one in Houston. are they growing? but agree, hate groups are bad. 3 minutes ago, Doc said: And some like to laugh at Mormons (admittedly with good reason)... I find their stories to be very interesting. you know. if reading as Fiction. all the wars of giants and angels before written history in this land. cool stories. could make some Netflix shows out of them. the fact its origins are in this general area are also interesting in my opinion. 1
LeviF Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: not wasting my time. Nation of Islam is bad for America. Most definitely. https://www.adl.org/resources/profile/nation-islam So what about the proud boys? The ADL 🤦♂️ The Proud Boys you can basically say are alt-right minus the racism. I don't believe that holding views that gerontocrats have pushed out of the overton window is "bad for America." Their apparent rush to glorify violence has not just a means but an end in itself is bad. Sedition convictions kind of seal the deal. So yeah, I'd say the Proud Boys are bad. But it's not a white supremacist organization. 14 minutes ago, Chris farley said: is pure hate speech. DR big head or "Yakab" making evil demons on an island? Well, sure, but I recommend reading because if you talk to black folks (especially on the internet) you're going to find that many of the views held by them today are, in fact, downstream of NOI beliefs. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) As a resident in Ann Arbor, I once took care of a self admitted Klan leader. He did well and we provided the best possible care. Never ran into a NOI member but we would have done the same for him/her. I was involved in some care for UM and even some Lions players who are black and white They all got excellent care. Pro football players are physically amazing. Edited March 23, 2023 by redtail hawk
LeviF Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: As a resident in Ann Arbor, I once took care of a self admitted Klan leader. He did well and we provided the best possible care. Never ran into a NOI member but we would have done the same for him/her. Did Coach Harbaugh treat the nurses well or try to pinch them? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LeviF said: Did Coach Harbaugh treat the nurses well or try to pinch them? He'd have to beat me to it...kidding. Schembechler was reportedly a super nice guy. 1
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 Funny… many of the same people who say; ‘groups that think they are better than other people because of their opinions and beliefs are bad and dangerous’ are part of; groups that think they are better than others because of their opinions and beliefs. Astonishing lack of self awareness going on. racial supremacy, ideological supremacy, elitist supremacy…. It’s all problematic to society. 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Funny… many of the same people who say; ‘groups that think they are better than other people because of their opinions and beliefs are bad and dangerous’ are part of; groups that think they are better than others because of their opinions and beliefs. Astonishing lack of self awareness going on. racial supremacy, ideological supremacy, elitist supremacy…. It’s all problematic to society. Never heard of elitist supremacy. But if someone is truly elite in a needed skill, wouldn't they likely be more benefit to society than problematic to it? Unless of course, they were an axe murderer or something.
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