Rex Ryan attempted to trade EJ Manuel for Geno Smith in 2016(article)

[US Egg]

58 minutes ago, Airseven said:

This goes into the “one too many new threads” column.

You speak the truth.

[transient]

I mean, it was Wrecks and Rob Ryan, is the author positive he said “Geno Smith” and not “Genoa salami”?

 

Or maybe Wrecks thought he had unfinished business in developing Geno as an NFL QB…

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/400554298

[BillsfaninChicago]

Man the Wrecks era seems like a lifetime ago.

[Saxum]

30 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

 

Funny because Tyrod played significantly better then both before this exact season (geno), weird flex. tyrod was the qb that played for us when the streak ended, even if he was very average. Some bills fans have a weird hate for tyrod 

 

Hate and jealousy. 

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst

It worked out for both of them 🙂

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst

 

They were going to pick Geno. But when they brought him in for a visit he was terrible. Unprepared, disengaged, flunked the white board session. Geno's immaturity both as a person and a football player is why he washed out with the Jets. He was the worst decision maker on a football field I think I have ever seen. He always threw a nice football. He has one of the most attractive throwing motions in the game. His late career renaissance such as it is with Seattle (has fallen off somewhat down the stretch) is in part a sign of a guy who has matured. 

 

But while EJ is certainly not the best QB from that class had the Bills drafted Geno instead he'd have failed here like he failed in New York because he wasn't ready to be a pro.

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

He has one of the most attractive throwing motions...

Settle down, this is a family board

[Nextmanup]

6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Whaley/Nix picked Manuel over Geno when everyone and their mother said Geno was the #1 QB in the class and Manuel was a 3rd round project. 10 years later Geno is in the pro bowl and Manuel is a college football analyst

And yet some people wonder we we suffered a 20 year drought.

 

LOL!

 

It's healthy and re-assuring to read comments like yours from time to time, now.  It's like a little slap in the face and brings you back to reality, so that you can better enjoy what is going on RIGHT NOW.  Wakes you up out of the fog of winning all the time so as to better appreciate it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gonzo1105]

7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug

 

No he wasn't. Despite his college stats looking good, Manuel held Florida State back from a National Title in 2012. I truly believe that. He was slow to read his progressions in college and had too many errors at Florida State. When Buffalo took him at 16, I knew he was going to bust after watching him for 3 years there. He didn't have the traits to be a great QB.

 

Manuel's also threw a ton of screens and dump off passes that made his completion percentage look better than it was. He was the polar opposite of Josh Allen who was undersold on his accuracy because he played in a vertical passing game in terrible weather with a terrible team. Manuel had a fantastic team who played in great weather who couldn't accurately throw the ball. 

[ProcessTruster]

7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug

EJ had it going before the knee injury against the Browns that night, so we'll never know.   Doesn't matter , movin on from that for sure... 

[GaryPinC]

8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Manuel was more of a "franchise QB" type due to his mannerisms. I totally think that EJ was ruined by the coaching staff of Saint Doug

Manuel left the Bills for the Raiders and in 2019 joined the Chiefs with head coach Andy Reid.  He wasn't ruined, he just didn't have what it takes.

[Golden*Wheels]

Was he trying to get him punched in the face again?

[Kornfed]

1 hour ago, Golden*Wheels said:

Was he trying to get him punched in the face again?

That's what I was trying to recall.....  Geno was involved in a locker room situation where he either had his jaw broken or... he broke a teammates jaw. .... Regardless, it was not a good look for him or his team. ...... I was (like many) hoping EJ would be the answer to our QB problem. But he obviously wasn't. Ten years later, I'm getting a kick outta  Geno having such a strong year this far into his career ..... I'm glad for him ..... perseverance paying off.... I actually didn't think he was in the league anymore. ..PERSEVERANCE 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Kornfed

[Golden*Wheels]

5 minutes ago, Kornfed said:

That's what I was trying to recall.....  Geno was involved in a locker room situation where he either had his jaw broken or... he broke a teammates jaw. .... Regardless, it was not a good look for him or his team. ...... I was (like many) hoping EJ would be the answer to our QB problem. But he obviously wasn't. Ten years later, I'm getting a kick outta  Geno having such a strong year this far into his career ..... I'm glad for him ..... perseverance paying off.... I actually didn't think he was in the league anymore. ..PERSEVERANCE 

That was IK Enemkpali, who Rex later brought here. He decked Geno for not paying his gambling debt! Can you imagine Rex then bringing him here if IK was still on the team (not sure if he would have been)? LOL. Good old Rex.

 

 

[prissythecat]

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

Manuel left the Bills for the Raiders and in 2019 joined the Chiefs with head coach Andy Reid.  He wasn't ruined, he just didn't have what it takes.

Chucky the QB connoisseur actually cut EJ from Raiders.

[hemma]

We were stuck looking for a franchise QB in a terrible draft class.

[BuffaloBill]

9 hours ago, Gambit said:

Before Seattle, Geno was just as bad if not worse then EJ. Either way, they both were God awful. Pete apparently is a QB whisperer.

 

It is very interesting that Wilson has absolutely crashed and burned and now Geno is playing lights out. It does make you wonder how critical is coaching / system to the success of the “greats.”  

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

EJ had it going before the knee injury against the Browns that night, so we'll never know.   Doesn't matter , movin on from that for sure... 

 

We're on to Cincinnati.

[Epstein's Mother]

11 hours ago, Rico said:

"Trade EJ? Over my dead body!"

 

Damn...  Jussie Smollett looks good in Bills gear.

[Rico]

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

Anyone, including Geno Smith, would have been better that TuhROD. 

Except EJ.