I don’t know definitively, but could the Bills make history on Monday?

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

I don’t have all the facts, I just have my memory and loose discussion of a criteria which isn’t researched a whole lot, so take it worth a grain of salt, if you will.

 

First, the Bills own legacy of this happening in their history.  I was there in 1980 when the Bills beat the defending super champion and AFC champion Pittsburgh Steelers, and then a few weeks later when they beat the defending NFC Champion L.A. Rams.

 

So in 1980 was the last time the Bills played both conference and super bowl champs and also won.

 

If the Bills beat Cincy on Monday they will do it again, but both games will have been on the road.

 

I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season.

 

Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure.

 

I just think that, either way, it is pretty darn impressive.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts

[pkwwjd]

Been done before, just not by the Bills

 

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2015/1/28/7927399/how-many-times-has-a-team-beaten-both-super-bowl-teams

Edited December 28, 2022 by pkwwjd

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 minutes ago, pkwwjd said:

Been done before, just not by the Bills

 

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2015/1/28/7927399/how-many-times-has-a-team-beaten-both-super-bowl-teams

 

 

Awesome.  Thank you, Sir.

 

Now lets have the Bills add to that!

 

 

EDIT: @pkwwjd  However, from the link even though it has happened 18 times, it doesn't show home or away.

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts

[US Egg]

Nice job. We’ll talk more Tuesday, hopefully, about this.

[Nextmanup]

With the big ups and downs from year to year among NFL teams, this isn't necessarily as big an accomplishment as it may seem at first blush.

 

We were so proud of that Week 1 pounding of the Rams despite giving the ball away 4 times and having LOTS of thing to clean up...and yet the Rams have proven THIS YEAR to be a lousy team.  

 

The Bengals are still quite good so that situation is different.

 

The REAL accomplishment would be to beat the 2 AFC and NFC champion teams in the year they become champions.

 

Especially if done on the road!
 

Of course, that would be impossible to do if we ourselves are the AFC conference champion this year!  So there's that too.

 

 

[CSBill]

Let’s hope!

[dollars 2 donuts]

16 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

With the big ups and downs from year to year among NFL teams, this isn't necessarily as big an accomplishment as it may seem at first blush.

 

We were so proud of that Week 1 pounding of the Rams despite giving the ball away 4 times and having LOTS of thing to clean up...and yet the Rams have proven THIS YEAR to be a lousy team.  

 

The Bengals are still quite good so that situation is different.

 

The REAL accomplishment would be to beat the 2 AFC and NFC champion teams in the year they become champions.

 

Especially if done on the road!
 

Of course, that would be impossible to do if we ourselves are the AFC conference champion this year!  So there's that too.

 

 

 

 

 

True.

 

Again, I am trying to find out how many times it has been done where both games are road games. 

 

I've written a question to the author from pkw's link above.  

 

 

 

[TheWeatherMan]

It we played the 49ers we would have beaten all 4 teams in the conference championships.  

[Chandler#81]

We beat the Super Bowl Champion Jets in their Super Season! (but that’s the ONLY game we won that year..🤦‍♂️)

 

We beat all 3 Super Bowl teams who beat us in the big game in ‘93! (only to lose the the cowboys again…🤦‍♂️)

 

We beat the AFC Champion Broncos in Biscuit’s 1st ever game as a Bill in ‘87! (during a year with replacement players strike…🤦‍♂️)

 

So yeah, I don’t put much thought into this.. 🤦‍♂️

[Malazan]

only care about them beating this year's NFC Champions. 

[Kaenon]

None of it matters.

Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters.

[BigDingus]

Well, they're 100% making history with one thing -

 

The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game.

[cba fan]

11 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Well, they're 100% making history with one thing -

 

The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game.

Bills are 21-29 all time on MNF

Bengals are 12-26

so 33 for total. Maybe a record too??

Edited December 28, 2022 by cba fan

[BigDingus]

1 minute ago, cba fan said:

Bills are 21-29 all time on MNF

Bengals are 12-26

so 33

 

I meant their season record. Bills have 12 wins, Bengals have 11 wins, so combined they have 23 wins. I shared the video at the point where they discuss it.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by BigDingus

[sunshynman]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

It we played the 49ers we would have beaten all 4 teams in the conference championships.  

We may have to beat them in the SB this year!

[Dr.Sack]

Allen is his best when the lights are on. I’m confident. 

[PonyBoy]

4 hours ago, BigDingus said:

Well, they're 100% making history with one thing -

 

The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game.

 

Didn't require the 17th game to do this either.

[Xwnyer]

10 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

I don’t have all the facts, I just have my memory and loose discussion of a criteria which isn’t researched a whole lot, so take it worth a grain of salt, if you will.

 

First, the Bills own legacy of this happening in their history.  I was there in 1980 when the Bills beat the defending super champion and AFC champion Pittsburgh Steelers, and then a few weeks later when they beat the defending NFC Champion L.A. Rams.

 

So in 1980 was the last time the Bills played both conference and super bowl champs and also won.

 

If the Bills beat Cincy on Monday they will do it again, but both games will have been on the road.

 

I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season.

 

Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure.

 

I just think that, either way, it is pretty darn impressive.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice

[dollars 2 donuts]

Just now, Xwnyer said:

what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice

Xwnyer, I just remember being so over the top happy as a kid.

 

 

1 minute ago, Xwnyer said:

what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice

 

Just now, dollars 2 donuts said:

Xwnyer, I just remember being so over the top happy as a kid.

 

 

 

oh, and being the only undefeated team in the nfl at 5-0 by going to to San Diego and beating their 4-0 a**es!

 

 

[Just Jack]

23 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season.

 

Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure.

 

Okay, I did the deep dive...

 

1974 season

Miami (SBC) @ Patriots  

Patriots @ Vikings (NFCC)

1 home, 1 away

 

1977 season

Raiders (SBC) @ Rams 

Vikings (NFCC) @ Rams

2 home

 

1978 season

Broncos (AFCC) @ Vikings

Vikings @ Cowboys (SBC)

1 home, 1 away

 

1979 season

Steelers (SBC) @ Eagles

Steelers (SBC) @ Oilers

Eagles @ Cowboys (NFCC)

Oilers @ Cowboys (NFCC)

2 home, 2 away

 

1980 season

Steelers (SBC) @ Bills

Rams (NFCC) @ Bills

2 home

 

1982 season

Chargers @ 49ers (SBC)

Bengals (AFCC) @ Chargers 

1 home, 1 away

 

1985 season

49ers (SBC) @ Lions

Dolphins (AFCC) @ Lions

2 home

 

1987 season

Giants (SBC) @ Bills

Broncos (AFCC) @ Bills

2 home

 

1992 season

Raiders @ Redskins (SBC)

Bills (AFCC) @ Raiders

1 home, 1 away

 

1993 season

Dolphins @ Cowboys (SBC)

Dolphins @ Bills (AFCC)

2 away

 

1994 season

Lions @ Cowboys (SBC)

Bills (AFCC) @ Lions

1 home, 1 away

 

1999 season

Broncos (SBC) @ Buccaneers 

Falcons (NFCC) @ Buccaneers

Broncos (SBC) @ Jaguars

Falcons (NFCC) @ Jaguars

4 home

 

2001 season

Ravens (SBC) @ Packers

Packers @ Giants (NFCC)

1 home, 1 away

 

2002 season

Broncos @ Patriots (SBC)

Rams (NFCC) @ Broncos

1 home, 1 away

 

2003 season

Packers @ Buccaneers (SBC)

Packers @ Raiders (AFCC)

Buccaneers (SBC) @ Titans 

Raiders (AFCC) @ Titans

2 home, 2 away

 

2005 season

Patriots (SBC) @ Broncos

Eagles (NFCC) @ Broncos

2 home

 

2006 season

Steelers (SBC) @ Chargers

Chargers @ Seahawks (NFCC)

1 home, 1 away

 

2007 season

Colts (SBC) @ Chargers

Bears (NFCC) @ Chargers

2 home

 

2012 season

Giants (SBC) @ Ravens

Patriots (AFCC) @ Ravens

2 home

 

2014 season

Seahawks (SBC) @ Rams

Broncos (AFCC) @ Rams

2 home

 

2016 season

Broncos (SBC) @ Raiders

Panthers (NFCC) @ Raiders

Falcons @ Broncos (SBC)

Falcons @ Panthers (NFCC)

Panthers (NFCC) @ Falcons

Chiefs @ Panthers (NFCC)

Chiefs @ Broncos (SBC)

Broncos (SBC) @ Chiefs

4 home, 4 away

 

2017 season

Patriots (SBC) @ Dolphins

Dolphins @ Falcons (NFCC)

Panthers @ Patriots (SBC)

Falcons (NFCC) @ Panthers

2 home, 2 away

 

2018 season

Eagles (SBC) @ Titans

Patriots (AFCC) @ Titans

2 home

 

2019 season

Patriots (SBC) @ Ravens

Ravens @ Rams (NFCC)

1 home, 1 away

 

2022 season*

Cowboys @ Rams (SBC)

Bengals (AFCC) @ Cowboys

1 home, 1 away

(*season not completed yet)

 

So there you have it, an away team has beaten both SB teams in the same season just four times so far. 

 

Your grand totals are, home teams 42, away team 22

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by Just Jack