Danger Mouse Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I'd be sad to lose him. I love Frazier. Making me about the only person who does. Not convinced he's HC quality though. And that Denver defence doesn't need too much help. Edited December 28, 2022 by LondonBill Quote
Kmart128 Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Since1981 said: Broncos need an offensive savant to fix Wilson. That’s not Frazier : -/ NEXT. Well that really depends on what offensive coordinator and qb coach Frazier brings with him to the staff. Like Sean Mcdermott aint no QB guru but he hired Daboll which really allowed Josh to skyrocket. 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Frank Reich Loved Frank when he played for us, but has he done anything showing he can get the best out of a QB?🤔 Quote
Low Positive Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The attractiveness of the Denver job comes down to "do you think Russ is fixable?" If you answer yes it is the best job on the market. If you answer no it is the worst job on the market. Russ is absolutely fixable, but you have to get it through to him that his strengths are not as a pocket passer. Then a coach has to bring in an OC that will run the only offense that he was successful in that has very simple reads and allows for a lot of off-schedule plays (letting Russ cook). Darrell Bevell, the coach who scouted and drafted Wilson and developed the offense that led Russ to the SB, is currently QB coach in Miami and would probably take that OC job in Denver. Quote
Stuartjohn Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 3:22 AM, Mr. Irrelevant said: As long as we have Josh Allen, anything is possible. The Bills have their flaws, but so does everyone else. The difference maker is #17. That kid is incredible. If the Bills could get one or two difference makers, WOW! What a force they would be. A dominant RB or a 2nd WR. Perhaps a gamechanger at DL or LB. But that's all wishful thinking. The kid from Firebaugh is the envy of the NFL. And he's a Buffalo Bill!!! Saw the Bills finally defeat the Dolphins in 1980. Suffered the 4 Super Bowl losses. 17 years without making the playoffs. Then, this kid from Reedley Jr. College and the University of Wyoming arrives! Couldn't be more thankful. Merry Christmas everyone! 8 hours ago, chongli said: I wonder if Frazier's age (63) has anything to do with teams' reluctance to hire him? “ 13 Seconds”. That’s his Legacy!! He blew a Lead with 13 seconds left-inexcusable! 1 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Well that really depends on what offensive coordinator and qb coach Frazier brings with him to the staff. Like Sean Mcdermott aint no QB guru but he hired Daboll which really allowed Josh to skyrocket. This. I think Frazier would be a very good choice. Plus would allow a good OC to focus only on the offense. Having an offensive mind as a HC, would would be less effective IMO having multiple responsibilities. Get a good OC and let a HC like Frazier focus on the entire team and culture. Quote
TAinLack. Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: This. I think Frazier would be a very good choice. Plus would allow a good OC to focus only on the offense. Having an offensive mind as a HC, would would be less effective IMO having multiple responsibilities. Get a good OC and let a HC like Frazier focus on the entire team and culture. I sincerely hope Leslie gets another HC opportunity and I wish him the very best if he leaves. Edited December 28, 2022 by TAinLA spelling 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: Here we go again...Frazier apparently a candidate for every HC job but always gets passed over for a young offensive coach it seems... Given +1600 odds to become next Bronco coach...Payton odds on favorite at +400 but that doesn't make any sense to me...complete scheme mismatch with Wilson. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-leslie-frazier-early-odds-171551834.html Leslie need to land a job. He deserves it and we could use the 3rd. Quote
BlazinBill Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Frazier should of already been given chance and I hope he does- not out of any type of spite though, he deserves it The league went to offensive guys for a bit but you gotta think guys like McDaniel and Hackett show not to just hire guys for that reason - so confused on what anyone saw in them as HC Edited December 28, 2022 by BlazinBill Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Mango said: Frazier gets one more shot at a HC gig. Outside of the 3 gigs open, there are another 20 or so teams that would fire their current coach and hire Payton if he told them he wanted to be there. Why on earth either of those two guys would take the Denver job is beyond me. That has to be just as bad as the last few Houston openings. They would also be ready to hand over the trade compensation as NO says if Peyton ever coaches again. 9 hours ago, I am the egg man said: New ownership likely wants to make a splash. Payton’s the shiny new toy they surely desire. It will take a nice shiny 1st and more to get that shiny Peyton 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Pete Carroll wasn’t that and Wilson did great in Seattle. Hmmm let’s see. Geno Smith seems to be playing fine. Wilson???? Finally tied his bathroom count with TDs. Quote
Simon Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 16 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Please tell me this is serious and not a Rooney move. A widely respected and honorable man works his ass off to reach the pinnacle of his career and other organizations show interest in his expertise and leadership. And there are still people in this world that will sully that man and his success by suggesting that the real reason somebody would be interested in such an accomplished man is only his race. 1 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Loved Frank when he played for us, but has he done anything showing he can get the best out of a QB?🤔 This is sarcasm, right? 1 Quote
Greg S Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Stuartjohn said: “ 13 Seconds”. That’s his Legacy!! He blew a Lead with 13 seconds left-inexcusable! The Chiefs started on their own 25 as well. Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: The Chiefs started on their own 25 as well. And once again shows OFFENSE >>> Defense Quote
Greg S Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: And once again shows OFFENSE >>> Defense With the rules the game favors the offense. But still 13 seconds and they have the ball at their own 25. You should never blow the lead in that situation. Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Greg S said: With the rules the game favors the offense. But still 13 seconds and they have the ball at their own 25. You should never blow the lead in that situation. Yet happens with top end QBs. See Bills this year. Quote
Greg S Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yet happens with top end QBs. See Bills this year. I remember Bills at Lions comes to mind. Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Greg S said: I remember Bills at Lions comes to mind. Ravens another. Quote
Greg S Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: Ravens another. Didn't the Bills drive down the field to win that game. The Lions game started with about 20-25 seconds. Then Josh hit Diggs with the long pass immediately. Similar to 13 seconds. The Ravens game the Bills had more time. Quote
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