Bills Offseason Personnel Needs

[DJB]

4 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

We need help at Safety too.

 

What is the best way to approach this? Should we look at free agency for WR or S, and then look to the draft for O-Linemen?

 

I get the impression that the Bills will do all they can to retain Tremaine Edmunds. Jordan Poyer might be kept, but I doubt he gets a long term contract.

 

We will need to get someone to eventually replace Mitch Morse.

I think Beane finds a way to bring back Poyer on a 1 or 2 year deal

Edited December 27, 2022 by DJB

[Bangarang]

The priority every offseason should be making sure Josh is protected and has enough weapons. This team is only going as far as he takes us. 

 

Beyond that, we could use some better depth in the secondary. I'd prefer to keep Poyer.

 

Not sure what they do with Edmunds. He's probably played some of his best football this year which is always concerning in a contract year. I wouldn't want to see crazy money thrown at him. 

[GreggTX]

Good assessment. Just a couple minor differences in my mind and 1 addition. I like Singletary more than most, it seems. I think the best compliment to Cook would be a heavier back for snow games and poor traction conditions. At WR, I'd like a guy with world class speed. Diggs has decent speed, but a guy like Hill gives defenses headaches. Lastly, we need upgrades across the OL except Dawkins who would be better at G. Brown might develop into an elite OT, but right now he's a liability -- Not the worst, but way closer to the bottom than the top. I don't get why people overlook him when evaluating our OL. He's the weakest link and it makes no sense. He has elite athletic skills, but plays like a backup.

[balln]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Me, personally .. 
 

Poyer - Gone

Singletary - Gone

Saffold - Gone

Phillips - Gone

 

*Poyer likely gets paid, but the other three could be welcomed back on VERY team friendly deals. 

 

Edmunds - Back (gets paid)

Shaq - Back (team friendly)

Marlowe - Back (vet deal)

Klein - Back (vet deal)

 

Oliver - Trade for a 2nd

 

RD1 - WR

RD2 - OL

RD2 - OL

RD3 - S/DT

RD4 - DT/S

RD5 - RB

I doubt we trade Ed Oliver, he’s very good, but he’s not elite .. and I don’t see the point of paying big money to a very good DT long term. 
 

 

I love this 

[Special K]

Offseason personnel needs....hopefully the Bills will need to hire a Lomabrdi Trophy Polisher!🏆

[GreggTX]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Me, personally .. 

 

Poyer - Gone

Singletary - Gone

Saffold - Gone

Phillips - Gone

 

*Poyer likely gets paid, but the other three could be welcomed back on VERY team friendly deals. 

 

Edmunds - Back (gets paid)

Shaq - Back (team friendly)

Marlowe - Back (vet deal)

Klein - Back (vet deal)

 

Oliver - Trade for a 2nd

 

RD1 - WR

RD2 - OL

RD2 - OL

RD3 - S/DT

RD4 - DT/S

RD5 - RB

 

I doubt we trade Ed Oliver, he’s very good, but he’s not elite .. and I don’t see the point of paying big money to a very good DT long term. 

 

 

 

I don't really see Oliver leaving unless he wants elite money, but I'm not assuming he won't be reasonable. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Boatdrinks]

I’ll think on this after the Super Bowl. Man, we had a LOT of years where we were talking draft in October. This just feels kinda like stores playing Christmas music on Halloween. 

[Gunsgoodtime]

I actually was thinking about this earlier.  Assuming they keep Edmunds, and Poyer, etc.   In no particular order, 1st 5 picks OL, OL, Wr, Wr, S.  Last 2 picks, S, Rb.  I know this won't happen and is not how you draft, but if I was drafting for position upgrades and future need this is what I would go with

Edited December 27, 2022 by Gunsgoodtime

[Airseven]

Franchise tag Edmunds and then use free agency to fill a couple holes/depth on defense.

 

Draft should be all offense entirely, including at least 2 OL within the first 3 selections.

 

[balln]

It’s not even close. It’s OL. 
 

saffold is basically grading out as a player that shouldn’t be playing in the nfl. The other lineman stink as well minus dawkins 

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/08/pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-offensive-line-dion-dawkins-mitch-morse/

[Airseven]

Just now, balln said:

It’s not even close. It’s OL. 
 

saffold is basically grading out as a player that shouldn’t be playing in the nfl. The other lineman stink as well minus dawkins 

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/08/pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-offensive-line-dion-dawkins-mitch-morse/

 

Dawkins has stunk (at worst) or inconsistent (at best) since his new deal. Morse has been the only dependable cog this year when healthy and obviously his tenure is running out.

[Airseven]

R1 - IOL

R2 - WR

R3 - OT

R4 - RB

R5(2) - TE & OL

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

2 if not all 3 will restructure-  Beane will make room.  How much is the question 

it all depends on who is available, but all thing equal, Wr should be rd 1 imo.  

We need 2 OL and a better WR2 in the first 3 picks. I could care less what order that happens. I think both Motor and Edmunds will be gone so we will have to find their replacements. I have no clue what happens at safety?

[BillsNutHawaii]

4 hours ago, krf139 said:

Why in the world is anyone talking about this with our biggest game of the season less than a week away? Threads like this shouldn’t be allowed 

I'll answer this question.......

 

It's because this is what the Bills, (GM, Personnel Dept., Scouting Dept.) are "talking about" right now and have been discussing / evaluating since the season started, continue to do at this moment, and will do up through free agency and till the draft.  As a Bills fan, it interests me, (And apparently many others), what the team is doing, not just on the playing field, but in all aspects of the organization.  More specifically, what the Bills are planning today are indicators of what the team will look like in the future - and that interests me.  It's what all teams, all organizations do.

 

On a personal level, quite honestly, the planning process interests me as much as the game itself - that's not an exaggeration.  And that's why I am reading "about this with our biggest game of the season less than a week away."

 

 

[First Round Bust]

its more a question what they will do rather than what I would do:

 

as much as we need IOL, the only high picks made are Ford and Brown (a bust and a work-in-progress)...so likely...no...because you dont draft based on immediate need...and...add the head coach with a strong preference not to play rooks....but...Morse concussions and last year of his pricey contract may have them make take an interior who can play spot guard for one year with the rest of the cavemen and then switch to C the year after ???   

 

secondly...Davis coming-up on last year of contract...not a given as sometimes plays like a number two, and at times a number three...but likely to get over-paid as Robert Woods once did as a number two, and if so it wont be us...simply cannot loose our passing game fastball so a higher pick on a WR makes sense esp since can be mentored year one with spot duty...Shakir becomes the slot guy ?....exit or paycut to McKenzie in favor of more speed and better hands ?  Crowder the backup on  a cheap contract ?

 

the rest of the rounds...best athlete available...DT for sure,  and the usual tackle and or guard taken late round...Hamlin the only db-safety being drafted by this regime ?  does Benford project to that postion next season for Poyer ?

 

fwiw...the gal pal is a nurse, a head nurse (yes, oh yes and OH YES)  and says Morse can play tackle, as he did in college and his mobility is still good, and less likley to get concussed on the exterior compared to the interior small space ?

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by First Round Bust
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[nosejob]

I think priority 1 is finding Morse's future replacement. If he doesn't retire to avoid permanent disability, I would be happy for one more year, but we gotta have a top notch center, hopefully in the draft to back him up when he misses time. The other high pick should be Saffold's replacement. Add one quality FA.

 

I also hope we can find a WR like Chase instead of paying 20 per to a FA. But don't forget where our draft spot will be....in each round. I think this is the year for Beane to trade up to secure high quality picks at least in the 1st 4 rounds and I don't care if he uses some of next year's to do it.

[Nephilim17]

3 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

We need help at Safety too.

 

What is the best way to approach this? Should we look at free agency for WR or S, and then look to the draft for O-Linemen?

 

I get the impression that the Bills will do all they can to retain Tremaine Edmunds. Jordan Poyer might be kept, but I doubt he gets a long term contract.

 

We will need to get someone to eventually replace Mitch Morse.

Free agent WRs are getting paid insanely. I suspect the team drafts, and fairly highly, a WR. I hope he has elite speed to stretch the field and good hands; size is a bonus but not necessary with elite speed.

Safeties might be an option in free agency if the the staff likes someone younger than Poyer they think has upside.

[Pete]

Poyer, Motor, Phillips, and Edwards all return.

 

sign great blocking one dimensional TE on cheap- to free Knox and make him major cog in our offense

 

1-OL

2-WR

3-0L

4-OL

[Solomon Grundy]

4 hours ago, DJB said:

I think Beane finds a way to bring back Hoyer on a 1 or 2 year deal

I agree that Beane will find a way to bring back Poyer. 

[DJB]

8 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I agree that Beane will find a way to bring back Poyer. 

lol thanks damn autocorrect