Buffalo sets new All-Time seasonal snowfall record thru December!

[Big Turk]

This needs its own thread as it's a monumental achievement as records go back to 1878 here.

 

With the 6.2" recorded today at the airport thru 10am, Buffalo has set the all-time record for most snowfall in a season thru December with 98.9", breaking the 95.9" previous record set in 2000.

 

Almost a foregone conclusion this will be the first time ever Buffalo records 100+" of snow by the end of December(a given based on the previous record being 95.9"). Still lightly snowing and expecting 3-5" more tonight and 1-3" tomorrow.

 

It's been a hell of a winter already...now Buffalo sets it's eyes on becoming the first city with 100K+ population to ever get 200" in a season in the US. Buffalo also hols that record of 199.2" in the infamous 1976-77 season(blizzard of 77).

 

As a sidenote, 2000 saw the 2nd highest seasonal snowfall ever of 158.7".

Edited December 26, 2022 by Big Turk

[Nextmanup]

"If you ask me Buffalo gets a bad reputation for snow.  It's not that bad."

 

LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

[boater]

The rest of the winter will be mild.

 

Google "Positive Affirmations"

[ExiledInIllinois]

47 minutes ago, boater said:

The rest of the winter will be mild.

 

Google "Positive Affirmations"

Mild means MORE SNOW. Lots of snow!

 

Only one speed BFLo needs:

 

Deep freeze starting in late November and thaw in March.

 

Only way to shut off  the snow machine...  And moving the city to where Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, or Green Bay is located alee of the Lakes ain't an option.

[US Egg]

The deaths are the story of this blizzard not the snowfall total.

[ExiledInIllinois]

41 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

The deaths are the story of this blizzard not the snowfall total.

Agree. The word "blizzard" is the formidable, key word and it really doesn't have to  do with quantity of snow, but intensity.

Edited December 28, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[Big Turk]

Officially at 101.2" for the season...

 

Also set another record, most snow ever in a calendar year with over 180", surpassing the 176" previous record set in 1977.

[muppy]

I asked this question in another thread (and I honestly don't know)  does anyone have any stats about what will happen with allll the water from melted snow and ice.........This reads like an @ExiledInIllinois question 🙂

 

send it all to california we Need the water  😏

Edited December 28, 2022 by muppy

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, muppy said:

I asked this question in another thread (and I honestly don't know)  does anyone have any stats about what will happen with allll the water from melted snow and ice.........This reads like an @ExiledInIllinois question 🙂

 

send it all to california we Need the water  😏

BFLo is in an exorheic region. 

 

Melted snow, water runoff goes into the ground water table (like rain) and drains, stays in basin depending on which continental water divide dictates the flow.  Here's a graphical representation.  Each line is a continental divide. Water will drain to each side of it.  BFLo is near the St.Lawrence Divide. PINK line. Everything on the BFLo side will drain to Great Lakes, St.Lawrence, then Atlantic. Everything on other side will drain straight towards Atlantic, Eastern Seaboard.  Everything between the PINK/ORANGE/GREEN/RED divide will go to Gulf of Mexico. 

 

And so on with other divides draining to Pacific, Arctic, etc...

 

The Great Basin in Nevada, Oregon, California, Arizona, Utah, and smidgen of Idaho/Wyoming is an endorheic basin, having no outlet... Basically closed. 

 

"Endorheic: A drainage basin that normally retains water and allows no outflow to other external bodies of water, such as rivers or oceans, but drainage converges instead into lakes or swamps, permanent or seasonal, that equilibrate through evaporation.

They are also called closed or terminal basins, internal drainage systems, or simply basins. Endorheic regions contrast with exorheic regions."

 

 

ENJOY! [ @BringBackFergy @Mike in Horseheads @Gugny @Beerball et al! 😏]

 

Sorry for the quick Wiki graph.  Just makes it easier and quick.

 

 

 

 

You can see the up and down elevation issues posed with getting water from the East to the West...

Edited December 28, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[muppy]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

BFLo is in an exhoreic region. 

 

Melted snow, water runoff goes into the ground water table (like rain) and drains, stays in basin depending on which continental water divide dictates the flow.  Here's a graphical representation.  Each line is a continental divide. Water will drain to each side of it.  BFLo is near the St.Lawrence Divide. PINK line. Everything on the BFLo side will drain to Great Lakes, St.Lawrence, then Atlantic. Everything on other side will drain straight towards Atlantic, Eastern Seaboard.  Everything between the PINK/ORANGE/GREEN/RED divide will go to Gulf of Mexico. 

 

And so on with other divides draining to Pacific, Arctic, etc...

 

The Great Basin in Nevada, Oregon, California, Arizona, Utah, and smidgen of Wyoming is an endorheic basin, having no outlet... Basically closed. 

 

"Endorheic: A drainage basin that normally retains water and allows no outflow to other external bodies of water, such as rivers or oceans, but drainage converges instead into lakes or swamps, permanent or seasonal, that equilibrate through evaporation.

They are also called closed or terminal basins, internal drainage systems, or simply basins. Endorheic regions contrast with exorheic regions."

 

 

ENJOY! [ @BringBackFergy @Mike in Horseheads @Gugny @Beerball et al! 😏]

 

Sorry for the quick Wiki graph.  Just makes it easier and quick.

 

 

 

so I guess cali gets water zilcho. .....😏

 

seriously though I learned something new today Gracias hermano

 

In the short term I really just hope it melts slowly so it doesn't cause undue flooding

[ExiledInIllinois]

15 minutes ago, muppy said:

so I guess cali gets water zilcho. .....😏

 

seriously though I learned something new today Gracias hermano

 

In the short term I really just hope it melts slowly so it doesn't cause undue flooding

Yeah... Kinda. Probably cheaper just to desalination and pump it up to Lake Mead.

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

BFLo is in an exhoreic region.

Whoa, now just hold up there a second…..

…..thems figthin’ words???

[ExiledInIllinois]

14 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Whoa, now just hold up there a second…..

…..thems figthin’ words???

You caught my typo! 😆 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

so I guess cali gets water zilcho. .....😏

 

seriously though I learned something new today Gracias hermano

 

In the short term I really just hope it melts slowly so it doesn't cause undue flooding

 

Makes you wonder when people will realize that moving to places with very limited water isn't a smart decision.  Thinking it will come to a head in the next 50 years.

101.6" here as of yesterday.

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Makes you wonder when people will realize that moving to places with very limited water isn't a smart decision.  Thinking it will come to a head in the next 50 years.

101.6" here as of yesterday.

Exactly....OR at least keep populations levels that can be sustainable.

 

It's NOT about climate change, etc....That's always happening... It's keeping sustainable populations in the problem areas. Way too over-populated on coasts and in the Southwest.  I get, people want to live in areas that have nice weather....BUT there has to be economic checks on these population.  Discourage population growth, people... Put state income taxes, higher cost building codes, etc... for these areas.  If we don't we are just repeating same cycle.  The taxpayers who subsidize this will just want a return... That comes mostly in the form of industry and economic product. IMO, tourism is not self-sustaining. 

[US Egg]

45 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

You caught my typo! 😆 

Typo? 

[ExiledInIllinois]

27 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Typo? 

Yeah... When you replied, I caught my misspelling! 

[Nextmanup]

19 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Mild means MORE SNOW. Lots of snow!

 

Only one speed BFLo needs:

 

Deep freeze starting in late November and thaw in March.

 

Only way to shut off  the snow machine...  And moving the city to where Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, or Green Bay is located alee of the Lakes ain't an option.

What Buffalo needs is the plan I developed in the 1980s as a teenager.

 

Operation Drain Lake Erie.

 

Turn that mofo into a parking lot.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

What Buffalo needs is the plan I developed in the 1980s as a teenager.

 

Operation Drain Lake Erie.

 

Turn that mofo into a parking lot.

 

 

In 10,000 years when Niagara Falls finally erodes to the mouth of Lake Erie 8 miles upstream on the Niagara River from where the present day Falls is...

 

...Lake Huron and Michigan will also drop 150 feet. We can just use Lake Ontario as the swimming hole. 😉😜 

Edited December 28, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[Big Turk]

20 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Mild means MORE SNOW. Lots of snow!

 

Only one speed BFLo needs:

 

Deep freeze starting in late November and thaw in March.

 

Only way to shut off  the snow machine...  And moving the city to where Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, or Green Bay is located alee of the Lakes ain't an option.

 

Well, maybe...but one of the coldest winters we ever had here in 1976-77 is the one that produced the most snow. 199.2", almost 35" more than second place.