Screen game

[billvernsays]

Can we figure out how to use an effective screen game? 

 

For years we haven't been able to run an effective screen while KC and Mahomes can count on 100-150 yards a week from theirs. 

 

I've heard from some folks that cover this team (cover 1) that this is due to the way defenses play us, (QB spy) on most plays which make it difficult to run a screen because the man who was responsible for Allen can read the play, quickly diagnose and blow up the screen. If that is the case couldn't we add a wrinkle such as a fake QB power to the right or left and set up the screen to the other side. If we executed this properly it would cause the spy to flow with to the side we are faking to as we run a screen to the other side (spy problem solved) . 

 

Also with Allen's incredibly strong arm, why don't we roll the pocket more and pair it with a flood concept to the side we're rolling to? 

I understand that doing this cuts the field down a bit but if we are dealing with a cover 2 or cover 3 zone wouldn't that in very simple terms put more guys in a specific area of the field then they have to defend while also helping out our sub par O-line? ,

 

Allen could fit the ball in those tight windows no problem as he's very comfortable and effective throwing on the run. Just my two cents    

Edited December 22, 2022 by billvernsays

[NewEra]

We might be able to.  We might not.  😃 

[balln]

7 minutes ago, billvernsays said:

Can we figure out how to fix the screen game? 

 

For 4 years we haven't been able to run an effective screen while KC and Mahomes can count on 100-150 yards a week from theirs. 

 

 I've heard this is due to the way defenses play us, (QB spy) on most plays which make it difficult to run a screen because the man who was responsible for Allen can go to blow up the screen. If that is the case couldn't we add a wrinkle like a fake QB power to the right or left and setting up the screen to the other side. This would cause the spy to flow with the fake as we run a screen to the other side. 

 

Also with Allen's incredibly strong arm, why don't we roll the pocket more along with a flood concept to the side we're rolling the pocket to I get that cut the field down a bit but if we are dealing with a cover 2 or cover 3 zone wouldn't that simple put more guys then they have to defend, Allen could fit it in those tight windows no problem as he's very comfortable and effective throwing on the run.   

our OL sucks. they either let them in way to fast. or when they do get out / they all whiff repeatedly. 

[John from Riverside]

To me that is solely on the  of line we actually have the backs to have an affective screen game, but all it takes is one miss block to screw the whole thing up

[CSBill]

What is this “screen game” thing you speak of?

[streetkings01]

Screen game? You talking about that play Chan Gailey used to call? Haven’t seen it since he was fired.

[DJB]

Edited December 22, 2022 by DJB

[billvernsays]

Can this be a Josh Allen issue? Maybe he's not patient enough? 

[Solomon Grundy]

30 minutes ago, CSBill said:

What is this “screen game” thing you speak of?

IMO, would be valuable in this week's game ran with Cook

[Fleezoid]

Saving it for the playoffs. it'll be one of our gadget plays. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

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Are you sure  you want that?

[Mango]

I don’t know why we don’t roll Allen right anymore. That was Dabolls bread and butter with everybody running crossers and curls. 
 

As far as the screen game. I don’t know. I think partially the OL. I also think we telegraph it a bit. Allen doesn’t look down field and we never seem to allow the DL through. We just can’t get the defense to overcommit so I assume it’s an execution issue. 

[Ramza86]

I think you meant to say...."create" a screen game.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I noticed throughout the season, and on one WR screen to Diggs in the Miami game…Khalil Shakir is not good at blocking.  He’s just getting blown up all over the field.

[AuntieEm]

48 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Screen game? You talking about that play Chan Gailey used to call? Haven’t seen it since he was fired.

 

   Gotta give Chan credit  he could tinker with his offensive plays till they worked well. Would be interesting what plays he'd have crested with Josh's skills. 

[RocCityRoller]

Well you need an OL that can pull and pin. We have maybe 2 guys that can do that. Morse and Bates, and Bates is playing on the wrong side.

 

The OL is not very good. People need to realize that is one of the factors limiting this offense.

[TBBills]

Rather not worry about screens. End arounds are our thing.

Edited December 22, 2022 by TBBills

[billvernsays]

This is the week we bring out the new and improved screen game (wouldn’t take much) 

[Captain_Quint]

Singletary doesn't really help this option either. He either misses the pass or catches it and takes 3 seconds to redirect himself up the field, which doesn't really work. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

On 12/22/2022 at 3:48 PM, billvernsays said:

Can this be a Josh Allen issue? Maybe he's not patient enough? 

I doubt it. The eye test says the OL is awful at “selling it” … looks like a fustercluck out there.