Opponents' 3rd and long scare anyone else?

[ganesh]

11 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

We are the 17th best 3rd down defense in the league!  Never mind 3rd and long...

 

39.34% tied with Bengals for 17th.

 

Very average.  

 

But it all seems to work out OK in the end.

 

 

Bend but don't break.  We are #2 (and outstanding) in points given...at 18 points per game....

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Bills92 said:

This..      I know everybody (including myself) would like us to be the reincarnate of the 85 Bears / 2000 Ravens / 2002 Bucs defence.. but unfortunately that died when Micah and Von went down.   We are now the epitome of a 'bend don't break defense'...  Many teams (including the Chiefs) have won Superbowls with similar type defenses... Those chances increases significantly when you have a hybrid Superhero Buffalo behind center

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

   It hasn't died.  It just got postponed getting added to the Bills list of accomplishments until a future season.  Can't break every record in one season even if we got Josh.   

Edited December 22, 2022 by AuntieEm

[Nextmanup]

11 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

This board is literally scared of every G*d damn thing known to man. I feel like I'm in the movie The Replacements.

 

 I guess I'll join in and give it a whirl..... Spiders. Anyone else scared of spiders?

 

 

 

 

You sound like the type of fan who will get over a Bills loss in the playoffs in about 5 seconds.

 

Big fan, huh?

 

 

[Motorin']

11 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

This board is literally scared of every G*d damn thing known to man. I feel like I'm in the movie The Replacements.

 

 I guess I'll join in and give it a whirl..... Spiders. Anyone else scared of spiders?

 

 

 

 

 

No, but I am concerned about spiders. And if you don't share my concern then you must not understand critical journalism. 

[gobilz]

Third and automatic 

[bobobonators]

There is a lot of anxiety on this board. Imagine once the playoff start? 

[Billsfan1972]

Already posted the link on another site.  So many stats and here is 3rd & 4th down defense.

 

Teams go for it more vs. the Bills then anyone and converting way too  much (particularly of late).  Doesn't give distance though.

 

Seems the 3rd & 4th and 1-2 yards they do better then longer though.

 

My issue is these long drives where they are converting multiple third downs (or fourth).

 

https://nflpickwatch.com/nfl/stats/teams/defense/down

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Already posted the link on another site.  So many stats and here is 3rd & 4th down defense.

 

Teams go for it more vs. the Bills then anyone and converting way too  much (particularly of late).  Doesn't give distance though.

 

Seems the 3rd & 4th and 1-2 yards they do better then longer though.

 

My issue is these long drives where they are converting multiple third downs (or fourth).

 

https://nflpickwatch.com/nfl/stats/teams/defense/down

 

Teams go for it more against the Bills because they know you have to score. Punts hurt and 3s are no good. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

You sound like the type of fan who will get over a Bills loss in the playoffs in about 5 seconds.

 

Big fan, huh?

 

 

 

 No, I'm a bit more reasonable than most. Everyone is scare of this thing or that, I look at it logically and say we've played 10 games this year against teams that are currently .500 or better, so only 4 games against losing teams. Playing harder teams results in more close games and not as good of stats, than playing an easy schedule, like last year's team had.

 

 Most would agree that the top 5 favorites to win the Super Bowl are Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, Eagles and 49ers. Like I said the Bills have played 10 games against teams .500 or better, the Eagles have 7, Bengals and Chiefs 6 and the team that all sports media and most fans are drooling over, the 49ers, have only played in 5.

 

  Just like everyone going nuts about the 49ers defense, they're good,  no doubt, but much like the Bills defense last year they have benefited from playing a bunch of garbage teams and even more garbage offenses. The offensive ranks of the teams they've played: 32nd - 2 times, 30th, 28th, 27th, 23rd, 21st, 18th, 17th, 14 - 2 times, 12th, 5th & 1st. Most take their #1 ranking at face value, I look for a reason/s why thir rankings are so high. It's because they've only played 2 offenses on the top 10, have played half their games against offenses that are somewhere between 21st - 32nd and 5 out of 14 games against a bottom 6 offense. That's a cakewalk right there, just like the Bills defense had last year.

 

 Also we're 4-1 against top 10 offenses and 3-1 against top 5 offenses(3 on the road). We're 3-1 against top 10 defenses(Again 3 on the road). We're 5-1 when playing a top 12 pass rusher, 1 game we faced 2 in the same game and won. We're 6-1 when playing a top 15 RB. And we're 2-1 against top 15 QBs, the only loss was when we played in outrageously hot weather missing half our starters and a couple of their backups. No other team can say they have done all that. This is why I'm not worrying about anything. This team has shown me they're good enough to win the whole thing.

 

  I love how your tried to nail me down, but failed miserably, you don't have the first clue about me or who I am.  Been a Bills fan for longer than most on here, but obviously not as long as the old timers. A fan since I went to a game when I was 5 in 1978, I'm a veteran at this and a much bigger fan than most.

 

  One of things I've learned over the years and this is 100% true, you can worry yourself to death, but it ain't going to make a lick of difference, it's 100% pointless. Me, I look at it this way, we've played a hard schedule, played in a bunch of close, hard fought games and we've only lost 3 times, all to teams .500 or better, by a combined 8 points. This is the most battle tested Bills team since, at least, the early 90s and the most tested team this year going into the playoffs. This year our stats and record are real, not a mirage like other years. That's good enough for me. I'll be the bigger man by ending this with I hope you learn to not worry so much and have a Merry Christmas! GO BILLS!!

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

21 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 No, I'm a bit more reasonable than most. Everyone is scare of this thing or that, I look at it logically and say we've played 10 games this year against teams that are currently .500 or better, so only 4 games against losing teams. Playing harder teams results in more close games and not as good of stats, than playing an easy schedule, like last year's team had.

 

 Most would agree that the top 5 favorites to win the Super Bowl are Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, Eagles and 49ers. Like I said the Bills have played 10 games against teams .500 or better, the Eagles have 7, Bengals and Chiefs 6 and the team that all sports media and most fans are drooling over, the 49ers, have only played in 5.

 

  Just like everyone going nuts about the 49ers defense, they're good,  no doubt, but much like the Bills defense last year they have benefited from playing a bunch of garbage teams and even more garbage offenses. The offensive ranks of the teams they've played: 32nd - 2 times, 30th, 28th, 27th, 23rd, 21st, 18th, 17th, 14 - 2 times, 12th, 5th & 1st. Most take their #1 ranking at face value, I look for a reason/s why thir rankings are so high. It's because they've only played 2 offenses on the top 10, have played half their games against offenses that are somewhere between 21st - 32nd and 5 out of 14 games against a bottom 6 offense. That's a cakewalk right there, just like the Bills defense had last year.

 

 Also we're 4-1 against top 10 offenses and 3-1 against top 5 offenses(3 on the road). We're 3-1 against top 10 defenses(Again 3 on the road). We're 5-1 when playing a top 12 pass rusher, 1 game we faced 2 in the same game and won. We're 6-1 when playing a top 15 RB. And we're 2-1 against top 15 QBs, the only loss was when we played in outrageously hot weather missing half our starters and a couple of their backups. No other team can say they have done all that. This is why I'm not worrying about anything. This team has shown me they're good enough to win the whole thing.

 

  I love how your tried to nail me down, but failed miserably, you don't have the first clue about me or who I am.  Been a Bills fan for longer than most on here, but obviously not as long as the old timers. A fan since I went to a game when I was 5 in 1978, I'm a veteran at this and a much bigger fan than most.

 

  One of things I've learned over the years and this is 100% true, you can worry yourself to death, but it ain't going to make a lick of difference, it's 100% pointless. Me, I look at it this way, we've played a hard schedule, played in a bunch of close, hard fought games and we've only lost 3 times, all to teams .500 or better, by a combined 8 points. This is the most battle tested Bills team since, at least, the early 90s and the most tested team this year going into the playoffs. This year our stats and record are real, not a mirage like other years. That's good enough for me. I'll be the bigger man by ending this with I hope you learn to not worry so much and have a Merry Christmas! GO BILLS!!

 

 

And we know how they did vs. the #1 offense.

 

I try and be levelheaded and fair, but regardless there are concerns.  

 

As good as the Bills opposition has been (record wise), the last 5 games though wins we've seen issues, which is what this board is for.  

 

Teams will convert 3rd downs, but the #4 DVOA Defense is not as successful as that # shows on third or fourth downs.

 

And while 11-3, been a long time since a thorough beatdown/convincing victory.

 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And we know how they did vs. the #1 offense.

 

I try and be levelheaded and fair, but regardless there are concerns.  

 

As good as the Bills opposition has been (record wise), the last 5 games though wins we've seen issues, which is what this board is for.  

 

Teams will convert 3rd downs, but the #4 DVOA Defense is not as successful as that # shows on third or fourth downs.

 

And while 11-3, been a long time since a thorough beatdown/convincing victory.

 

 

It's happening across the NFL.

 

2022 has already seen more close games than any previous year.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-games-have-never-been-closer-heres-why/

 

When it comes to close contests, 2022 is shaping up to be an all-timer. So far this season, 92 games (90 decisions and two ties) have been decided by 6 points or fewer, the most through Week 14 in NFL history. To put that in perspective, at least half of all games played in nine out of 14 weeks were decided by 6 points or fewer.

 

All these close games have led to some incredibly exciting finishes. The most recent example is Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott’s last-minute drive Sunday against the Houston Texans, a win that saved the Cowboys from the embarrassment of losing to a 17-point underdog. On Thursday in L.A., we were also treated to an improbable Baker Mayfield-led comeback against the Las Vegas Raiders — a win that came just two days after he joined the Rams. And there have been 75 more game-winning drives where those came from since the season started.

 

In fact, teams are on pace to record 101 game-winning drives in 2022, 12 more than in any other season since the merger. And even after adjusting for the added games from a 17-week season, the pace is historic: The NFL is averaging 5.5 game winning drives per week. Mercy.

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

It's happening across the NFL.

 

2022 has already seen more close games than any previous year.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-games-have-never-been-closer-heres-why/

 

When it comes to close contests, 2022 is shaping up to be an all-timer. So far this season, 92 games (90 decisions and two ties) have been decided by 6 points or fewer, the most through Week 14 in NFL history. To put that in perspective, at least half of all games played in nine out of 14 weeks were decided by 6 points or fewer.

 

All these close games have led to some incredibly exciting finishes. The most recent example is Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott’s last-minute drive Sunday against the Houston Texans, a win that saved the Cowboys from the embarrassment of losing to a 17-point underdog. On Thursday in L.A., we were also treated to an improbable Baker Mayfield-led comeback against the Las Vegas Raiders — a win that came just two days after he joined the Rams. And there have been 75 more game-winning drives where those came from since the season started.

 

In fact, teams are on pace to record 101 game-winning drives in 2022, 12 more than in any other season since the merger. And even after adjusting for the added games from a 17-week season, the pace is historic: The NFL is averaging 5.5 game winning drives per week. Mercy.

Only Allen has had game winning drives I thought!!!

[Gugny]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

Only Allen has had game winning drives I thought!!!

 

Game Winning Drives

• 1 Kirk Cousins 7
• 2 Justin Herbert 5
• 3 Daniel Jones 5
• 4 Joe Burrow 4
• 5 Josh Allen 4
• 6 Matt Ryan 4
• 7 Patrick Mahomes 3

[Don Otreply]

13 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

This board is literally scared of every G*d damn thing known to man. I feel like I'm in the movie The Replacements.

 

 I guess I'll join in and give it a whirl..... Spiders. Anyone else scared of spiders?

 

 

 

 

This right here^^^
 

WTF is up with this fearing, worrying, concerned with, just about every GD thing this and every other team has ever had to contend with every single season since the inception of football? JFC let’s give this crap a rest for a couple of days, 

 

let’s just beat the Bears and move on from there, that would be nice, wouldn’t it…, 

 

Thanks in advance, yours truly Don 😂

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Gugny]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

Game Winning Drives

• 1 Kirk Cousins 7
• 2 Justin Herbert 5
• 3 Daniel Jones 5
• 4 Joe Burrow 4
• 5 Josh Allen 4
• 6 Matt Ryan 4
• 7 Patrick Mahomes 3

 

If only the Bills had the mentality to win close games.  Sigh ...

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

If only the Bills had the mentality to win close games.  Sigh ...

 

 God that got rammed down everyone's throat for about a year. That was Colin Cowherd's, and several others, go to the back half of last year and early this year. 

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

40 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 God that got rammed down everyone's throat for about a year. That was Colin Cowherd's, and several others, go to the back half of last year and early this year. 

 

 

But if they only won three more close ones.   They've been much better this year.  Regardless they stunk last year.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

13 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Clowns. I hate them 

My list:

 

1) Clowns

2) Carnies

3) Dentists

4) Lawyers

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

10 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

My list:

 

1) Clowns

2) Carnies

3) Dentists

4) Lawyers

 

I need 2 Xanax just to get my teeth cleaned so I’m with you there 

[RocCityRoller]

17 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

My list:

 

1) Clowns

2) Carnies

3) Dentists

4) Lawyers