Pro bowl Bills

[Bad Things]

Congrats to all.

 

Matt Milano, you should have started.

[John from Riverside]

The AFC is QB rich

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No Milano?

No, you have to order it separately.  You get: soup, entree, dessert.
        

8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s unfathomable he got any votes 

 

7 hours ago, vincec said:

My favorite Seinfeld character.

Milano should have put the balm on.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Milano got screwed 

Morse is good but he is not first team ProBowl center

Bass is having a great year but Tucker has the name recognition and the nasty stare

[peterpan]

Granted I don’t follow as closely as I used to, but I don’t even know who Tyler Matakevich and Reid Ferguson are, so I’m shocked my made 3rd alternate.  In fact I didn’t even know they had third alternate!

[stevewin]

13 hours ago, The Wiz said:

For your reading pleasure, check the replies.

 

 

It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs?  How do these people actually function in society?  It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers.

Edited December 22, 2022 by stevewin

[Seoulofstone]

Too bad Tua didn’t make it. It would have greatly increased the price of his 5th year.

[Utah John]

14 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No Milano?

Not enough sexy stats (ints, sacks).  Just brilliant play.  Lazy Pro Bowl voters take the easy way out.

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

How'd the Chiefs get 8 players on the squad? 

(to the tune of Fiddler on the Roof):  TRADITION!

[BillsFanSD]

28 minutes ago, stevewin said:

It's actually crazy in those comments there are people walking and breathing air on the planet that don't think Josh belongs?  How do these people actually function in society?  It's the same reaction I get to flat-earthers.

Wait, what?  The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order.  No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys.  Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

I don't have any complaints about Mitch Morse's play, but is he really the 2nd best center in the AFC ? 

[Matt_In_NH]

TJ Watt misses 9 games and get in....not surprised but its just a popularity thing

[IndyMark]

16 hours ago, stevestojan said:

Gilliam over Oliver is special. 

Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position.

 

There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is >  Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there?  That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant.

 

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

[TheBrownBear]

19 minutes ago, IndyMark said:

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

I was with you until this last line.  Anyone who actually watches all of the games could never come away thinking he was a "below average player."  IMO, he's clearly an above average player.  But yes, he doesn't get enough sacks to be considered among the top-3 who were selected.

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, BillsFanSD said:

Wait, what?  The top three QBs in the AFC are obviously Allen-Burrow-Mahomes in some order.  No offense to Tua or Herbert or whoever, but those are clearly and obviously the top guys.  Maybe there's a little bit of a gap between Allen/Mahomes and Burrow, but there's a pretty big gap from Burrow to whoever the fourth-best QB is.

Burrow is so underrated.  Additionally, he has weapons. 

[balln]

2 hours ago, IndyMark said:

Maybe I am missing something, but Gilliam and Oliver do not play the same position.

 

There is not a universe where any one sole would think Oliver is >  Chris Jones, Kanas City Chiefs*, Quinnen Williams, New York Jets*, Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans is there?  That is literally what you typed but I am confident not what you meant.

 

Oliver is quite fortunate to be considered a 4th - that is generous.  He is not sniffing pro-bowl play.  Was almost completely absent last game. Again seems like a good dude, but he is a pretty average to below average player.

ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft

 

its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 

 

1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, balln said:

ill go one step further. How did we draft a 6' undersized player from a mid major over , the guys after. SIMMONS, wilkins, lawrence, burns..... all massive 6 4 from schools like clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NFL_Draft#Supplemental_draft

 

its a big whiff IMO. drafting 9th overall. you have to get a better player than what oliver is. 

 

1.5 sacks this year. needed a dareus 10 sack performance. not gonna get it im afraid

It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud

[balln]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It’s like you don’t even watch the games Oliver is an absolute stud

its like youre a fan boy with rose colored glasses.

 

66 pff grade. hes ok. he has flashes. but hes not better than simmons (83), dex lawrence, brian burns, or christian wilkins (pff 83). wilkins and simmons 6'4 . miss st and clemson. I just want to know who thought ed oliver would be a better pro on bills scouting

Edited December 22, 2022 by balln

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, balln said:

its like youre a fan boy with rose colored glasses.

 

66 pff grade. hes ok. he has flashes. but hes not better than simmons, dex lawrence, brian burns, or christian wilkins (pff 83). 

Brian Burns doesn’t even play the same position

[balln]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Brian Burns doesn’t even play the same position

close enough. DL. sure you can pick apart my post. id rather have brian burns than oliver. 6 5, 11 sacks pff 63. 

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

close enough. DL. sure you can pick apart my post. id rather have brian burns than oliver. 6 5, 11 sacks pff 63. 

No, it’s really not close enough. There’s a reason why defensive ends have more sacks than interior defense of lineman as a whole.
 

and yes, Brian Burns is a great player. We have Groot and spent a Brinks truck full of money on Von Miller, who unfortunately got hurt.