Albwan Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/12/20/18-absurdities-of-the-mcconnell-schumer-omnibus-spending-bill/ Embarrassing. Term limits please. Mafia mentality stealing from the American people. I await the trumptards deflection. Edited December 21, 2022 by Albwan 2
BillsFanNC Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Your daily reminder that Republicans suck too. 1 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 And his ‘priorities’ are spending the nation into bankruptcy. Well done Mitch! All that’s left is to retreat to some lobbyist sponsored steak dinner to congratulate yourself! 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 This spending Bill reminds me of why I hate 95% of politicans- 100% of Dems and 90% of GOP 2
LeviF Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic.
BillStime Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, LeviF said: We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic. Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle. Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020? smfh
fridge Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, LeviF said: We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic. The sheer hypocrisy of stating this now, and not after the absolute pillaging we witnessed during the Trump administration. 1
LeviF Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, fridge said: The sheer hypocrisy of stating this now, and not after the absolute pillaging we witnessed during the Trump administration. I don’t care.
PetermansRedemption Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: This spending Bill reminds me of why I hate 95% of politicans- 100% of Dems and 90% of GOP Absolutely this. People pick sides and try to associate with their party, but they are all criminal. The pork that makes it into all of these bills is disgraceful. 1 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 little known fact. these BS omni bills were not even attempted till 2019. They are supposed to do at least 12 separate appropriations bills every year. with debate and compromise. Not this BS.
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, BillStime said: Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle. Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020? smfh Thank you for reminding us of the fact that you are primarily a democrat, not an American. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, fridge said: The sheer hypocrisy of stating this now, and not after the absolute pillaging we witnessed during the Trump administration. start. this crap is at least 2 decades and counting. its just getting more and more brazen. Edited December 22, 2022 by Chris farley
BillStime Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Thank you for reminding us of the fact that you are primarily a democrat, not an American. idiots
SoCal Deek Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Thank you for reminding us of the fact that you are primarily a democrat, not an American. Stanford says you can’t say “American”. 1
Albwan Posted December 22, 2022 Author Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 6:10 PM, BillsFanNC said: Your daily reminder that Republicans suck too. mcconnnell needs to go he's terrible 1
LeviF Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 Is there anyone who has produced a full throated defense of this? Or is it literally just gerontocracy in action and any illusion of representation is gone? 19 hours ago, BillStime said: Yeah let’s ignore Trumps looting when his administration mysteriously lost track of $100 BILLION dollars from the PPP boondoggle. Or how much of our tax payer dollars went to his resorts… why wouldn’t Pompeo release that info in 2020? smfh you constantly respond to my posts with nonsense about trump. This is odd considering what I’ve said here about trump and the fact that trump was not nearly right enough for my taste. Congress began looting the treasury long ago, shortly after 9/11. You have no business talking about these things amongst adults. 1
ChiGoose Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, LeviF said: Is there anyone who has produced a full throated defense of this? Or is it literally just gerontocracy in action and any illusion of representation is gone? Not a defense of this per se, but my understanding of why it happens: We have a two-party system, which means that elections are zero-sum. You win, I lose and vice versa. As long as we have a first-past-the-post election system, it'll always be two parties, and it'll always be zero sum. Doesn't matter if we put in term limits, campaign finance reform, etc. So long as the goal of every candidate is securing a plurality of the votes against a single opponent, the other side will always be seen as the bad guy. Governance is not supposed to be zero-sum. It's supposed to be negotiation, compromise and getting less of everything you want (and a little that you don't want) in exchange for actually making a difference. In the less polarized times, there were conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. There were urban conservatives and rural liberals. The rise of cable news, the internet, and social media has lead to geographical and ideological sorting. This has led to an almost unprecedented level of polarization. So now zero-sum politics has infected the governance. Passing something when your team is in charge is bad for my team, even if the bill being passed is overall beneficial to my constituents. Therefore, I will vote against my constituents' interests to deny a win to the opposing team (of course, given that no bill is perfect, I will find some fig leaf of a provision, claim it is unacceptable, and blame your team for putting it in there). Regular order breaks down and whatever team is in charge just puts everything into a giant package, horse trades billions in earmarks, and rams it through at the last minute when the alternatives to not passing it are somehow worse than the bill itself. If you're Mr. Smith who went to Washington, the end result of this is that you're given the following choice: vote for this monstrosity of a bill or potentially let the American economy collapse. What's the least bad option? Can you blame even the best-intentioned member of Congress from swallowing their pride and voting for this, vowing it'll be the last time (but knowing deep down in their heart that it won't)? The only solution for this is electoral reform that returns the power to the people, not Washington, and creates incentives for cooperation, not invective polarization. But that would require those benefitting from the current system voting to replace it... Edited December 22, 2022 by ChiGoose 1
BillStime Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Yesterday, @LeviF wrote this: 20 hours ago, LeviF said: We’re in the “loot the treasury” phase of a republic. Now, the "adult" suffering dementia states this: 34 minutes ago, LeviF said: Congress began looting the treasury long ago, shortly after 9/11. You have no business talking about these things amongst adults. You are a child hack.
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