The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Freak-O said: Shady reminds me of Apollo Creed in that clip. He talks alot like carl weathers absolutely agree 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Dak gets too much hype and too much blame. He's a franchise QB and a solid top 10 player at the top of that 3rd tier down of QBs. He has the potential to throw the team on his back in any given game, but he doesn't do it with enough consistency to will them to a championship. Shady as an analyst is a pure clown though. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Dak has never been great. I never understood the hype, besides the simple fact that he's on the Cowboys. He was my 3rd favorite QB in that draft class, but I don't think he's improved much since then. He's stayed pretty close to his floor. Quote
Special K Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 6 hours ago, biLLyBuFFs said: So if Dak is ass ass with 4 picks in 2 games...is Peterman ass ass ass ass? The first one is Dak, the second one is Peterman!😄 2 Quote
PonyBoy Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, gobilz said: Dakk is dum Dak is Whack?? 🤔 Quote
Chaos Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, MJS said: Dak is an above average QB. But he is treated by many like he is way better than he actually is. He reminds me of Carr for the Raiders (who is also overrated). Both of them are high energy, try-hard QB's. They have good games. They have bad games. They just don't have quite enough to be the QB that their team needs them to be when the going gets tough. They cannot put the team on their backs. Heck, I'd put Kirk Cousins slightly above both of them, but he is kind of in the same category. How many years in the league without a playoff win. Dak's success level is well below average. Quote
Don Otreply Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 So is Dak choking yet again at the end of the regular season? Asking for a friend…, 😂 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Freak-O said: Shady reminds me of Apollo Creed in that clip. Love me some Shady McCoy Quote
reddogblitz Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, MJS said: Dak is an above average QB. But he is treated by many like he is way better than he actually is. He reminds me of Carr for the Raiders (who is also overrated). Both of them are high energy, try-hard QB's. They have good games. They have bad games. They just don't have quite enough to be the QB that their team needs them to be when the going gets tough. They cannot put the team on their backs. Good call. They are also both chokers. Quote
BigAl2526 Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 Cooper Rush single handedly eliminated Dak from any future consideration as league MVP. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: The Cowboys are going to be one and done again this year and everyone is going to be like how the hell did we get tricked into taking them seriously again. I think they’ll win their first playoff game, but I don’t see them going any further than that. Dak is overrated, but definitely a top 10 regular season QB. Can’t really blame him for that interception against the Jags 🤷♂️ Quote
stevestojan Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 Imagine if suddenly all sports commentators started giving their real opinions like this; what they really think versus what is good for ratings. It would be wild and I would love it. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Dak has never been great. I never understood the hype, besides the simple fact that he's on the Cowboys. He was my 3rd favorite QB in that draft class, but I don't think he's improved much since then. He's stayed pretty close to his floor. He has ended up the best QB from his class. I don't think stayed close to his floor is fair. Unless "leading the league in passing" is his floor? I think his ceiling is lower than a lot of other top guys. But Dak is a really good Quarterback. 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I think they’ll win their first playoff game, but I don’t see them going any further than that. Dak is overrated, but definitely a top 10 regular season QB. Can’t really blame him for that interception against the Jags 🤷♂️ How is he overrated? I don't know anybody who thinks he is more than a bottom end of the top 10 type QB. I think people might be getting overrated confused with getting too much attention. Nobody overrates Dak but he does get way too much air time for his actual talent and impact. But that isn't a Dak thing. It's a Dallas thing. Romo was the same. 1 Quote
RocCityRoller Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Virgil said: Damn, shots fired. Philly vs Dallas That rivalry is intense and foul Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: He has ended up the best QB from his class. I don't think stayed close to his floor is fair. Unless "leading the league in passing" is his floor? I think his ceiling is lower than a lot of other top guys. But Dak is a really good Quarterback. How is he overrated? I don't know anybody who thinks he is more than a bottom end of the top 10 type QB. I think people might be getting overrated confused with getting too much attention. Nobody overrates Dak but he does get way too much air time for his actual talent and impact. But that isn't a Dak thing. It's a Dallas thing. Romo was the same. Def overrated by all my Cowboy fan friends and some of the media for sure. Funny bc him and Romo both are stat monsters that haven’t really won a thing. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 Dak has performed, to more than just my eye, a LOT like a Kirk Cousins level QB: productive, sometimes highly productive, but also inconsistent when it gets down to it. And honestly, it seems to me like his arm is a bit lacking if he doesn't have his base perfectly set. Doesn't look like he can drive the ball off-platform like other upper tier talents. Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Def overrated by all my Cowboy fan friends and some of the media for sure. Funny bc him and Romo both are stat monsters that haven’t really won a thing. So you know people who think he is what, a top 5 QB? What is the rating they are giving him that you object to? He is talked about a lot. That is because he QBs the Cowboys. That is different to overrated. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Good call. They are also both chokers. But Dak doesn't cry. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He has ended up the best QB from his class. I don't think stayed close to his floor is fair. Unless "leading the league in passing" is his floor? I think his ceiling is lower than a lot of other top guys. But Dak is a really good Quarterback. Nah. I mean yeah he's done a great job. He's had arguably the most success, although Goff and Wentz did things too. But I contend that he does everything well that he was known for doing well at Mississippi. Athletic, good runner, strong arm, throws an accurate ball, willing to extend the play and throws well on the run. It's been enough to put up great stats on a super talented team. But what do the Cowboys do year-in and year-out? Underachieve. He's still got poor pocket awareness, still a bit slow to process, but the biggest issue is he's not a great leader. Hard Knocks showed us a bit of that. He is what he's always been. Hasn't moved the needle much from that baseline. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Nah. I mean yeah he's done a great job. He's had arguably the most success, although Goff and Wentz did things too. But I contend that he does everything well that he was known for doing well at Mississippi. Athletic, good runner, strong arm, throws an accurate ball, willing to extend the play and throws well on the run. It's been enough to put up great stats on a super talented team. But what do the Cowboys do year-in and year-out? Underachieve. He's still got poor pocket awareness, still a bit slow to process, but the biggest issue is he's not a great leader. Hard Knocks showed us a bit of that. He is what he's always been. Hasn't moved the needle much from that baseline. I disagree totally on the bolded. Have the Cowboys underachieved a bit? Yea, that is fair (not sure they should have been winning Superbowls or anything but they should probably have more than 1 playoff win). But they have also gone to the playoffs 4 times in the 6 years that Dak has been healthy. They'd been just twice in 8 years before he arrived. They have done a lot more winning with Dak than they did before him. And Romo had talented teams too. I think the Cowboys underachievement has deeper roots than the Quarterback. Quote
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