Nextmanup Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: The national guard is apparently going to be going door to door. There’s gotta be a slightly better option than that right? The logistics of checking tens of thousands of doors is wild The Wehrmacht cleaned out Stalingrad (among many other cities) going door to door. That city had a population over 400,000 in July 1942 when the Germans showed up; Stalin didn't want the civilians to be allowed to leave so the Soviet army would fight harder to defend the city. Eventually, there was nothing left in a city of that size to BURN, and freezing to death became a big problem for the Germans come December/January 1943. Sorry for the history segue...but I love it. PS: The US Army corps of engineers played a big role in digging Buffalo out of trouble back in the Blizzard of '77. Edited December 28, 2022 by Nextmanup 1 Quote
aristocrat Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The Wehrmacht cleaned out Stalingrad (among many other cities) going door to door. That city had a population over 400,000 in July 1942 when the Germans showed up; Stalin didn't want the civilians to be allowed to leave so the Soviet army would fight harder to defend the city. Eventually, there was nothing left in a city of that size to BURN, and freezing to death became a big problem for the Germans come December/January 1943. Sorry for the history segue...but I love it. PS: The US Army corps of engineers played a big role in digging Buffalo out of trouble back in the Blizzard of '77. The battle of Stalingrad was what? A year? I don’t think the people in these houses have a week Quote
US Egg Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 A Stalingrad analogy? The blizzard was epic. Quote
Bad Things Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Wait, what? We're now talking about this blizzard in the same breath as the Battle of Stalingrad? Jeez, things must be a LOT worse than what I originally thought! Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I feel like my back is broken after shoveling out 4ft of heavy ass snow in my driveway It felt like I moved thousands of pounds Monday and Tuesday Edited December 28, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 7 hours ago, aristocrat said: The national guard is apparently going to be going door to door. There’s gotta be a slightly better option than that right? The logistics of checking tens of thousands of doors is wild I read it's door-to-door for residents who lost power for extended times OR who called for help during the storm. Which sounds more focused and sensible. Quote The National Guard, of which 611 members were sent to Western New York, went door-to-door in city and suburban neighborhoods Wednesday to check on residents who lost power for an extended period or called for help during the storm. Officials juggled snow removal plans with preparations for preventing flooding from a rapid warmup expected late this week. 2 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) I know there has been a few threads on this … but I really need to Get this off my chest on the main board I love you guys …. I love the bills fan base… from Buffalo NY to Tokyo Japan Since Friday , My city has been going through a lot of things… The worst winter storm in American history dropped On a city in a 40 hr period … Even the blizzard of 77 had like 50 straight days of snow and the wind blew it onto the city We had 40 mile an hour sustained winds… Gusts over 75 miles an hour… For 40+ straight hours… And getting pelted with snow… Freezing temperatures Hundreds of thousands of people lost power … People were stranded in cars… People who couldn’t survive in a car started to walk… Thousands of people who worked until 10 AM on Friday had the toughest decisions of their life to make Do I risk my life to go home to my family… Or do I stay at work for three days… Buffalo gets a reputation for snow… We are hearty people and we handle a lot… This was nothing we have ever seen I know a lot of homeless people on the east side… A lot of people who have nothing and no home And I have no idea how they are I know the storm is over… But we are going to have to deal with the aftermath prayers Edited December 29, 2022 by Buffalo716 4 2 10 Quote
Mango Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Thank you for this. I needed this sort of grounding of good people. I have family who moved to CA 20 years ago and basically haven’t been back since that have been casually mentioning over and over again how silly it is the Sabres have postponed a second game because the Bills made it in…or something stooopid. I have a doctor friend who was stuck in the hospital for 5 days. I had friends who lost power for days, so they eventually put up their camping tent in their kitchen and heated it with boiling pots of water for 3 days. My grandfather has been waiting to get released from the hospital for 3 days now but can’t because of the driving ban and lack of ambulances. This one hit me hard from afar. It’s good to see there are still some good people who understand the gravity of the city from afar. Some people are the worst. 2 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: Thank you for this. I needed this sort of grounding of good people. I have family who moved to CA 20 years ago and basically haven’t been back since that have been casually mentioning over and over again how silly it is the Sabres have postponed a second game because the Bills made it in…or something stooopid. I have a doctor friend who was stuck in the hospital for 5 days. I had friends who lost power for days, so they eventually put up their camping tent in their kitchen and heated it with boiling pots of water for 3 days. My grandfather has been waiting to get released from the hospital for 3 days now but can’t because of the driving ban and lack of ambulances. This one hit me hard from afar. It’s good to see there are still some good people who understand the gravity of the city from afar. Some people are the worst. My entire family roots for 110+ years are in the city… Besides Ellis island I have never left My family home which I still have is on the east side and I have another home near the airport I love western New York and Buffalo … I’ve never been able to leave Just now, Chandler#81 said: “Hey guys”? Hey effin’ Guys?? 14000 posts and you still don’t know what’s an acceptable thread title? Didn’t and won’t read a single word thereafter. S’matter witchoo boy? Really man 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I just deleted a post that delved into certain uglier aspects of this crisis and its coverage, because frankly, eff that kind of focus. People have suffered greatly and even perished because of this natural disaster. And so many have persevered and pitched in to pull others out of peril. We should be focusing on the grit and sacrifice, but also on how the City of Buffalo's leadership needs to dramatically reorganize its priorities to mitigate such hardship in the future. And in the meantime, let's celebrate how the region (and to a less important extent, the Bills organization) continues to rally around each other during unprecedented obstacles. 4 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Very nice sentiment. Belongs in Off the Wall. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 My goddaughter/niece's husband has been working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week doing plowing for NYS which means my niece has to handle all of the child care since driving ban has prevented the grandmothers from doing usual help with watching. Despite driving bans some employers are still wanting workers to come in to work. I understand troubles that causes for I was considered essential earlier in my career and when Northern Virginia had a driving ban I asked company who pays for ticket if I am stopped and got no answer. When I asked for letter to provide to police I was not given one since officially we were not working on government site; very stupid cover letter. Due to driving ban no one could leave work with cots set up so people could sleep between shifts since many essential people could not get to work. My brother has been delivering groceries to some elderly neighbors and relatives via snowmobile. If you run out of groceries you are in trouble for very few places are open. Lookout for your neighbors. My sister works on a food warehouse distributor and barely got home before this wave of snow came in leaving work at 9 AM after driving ban started and barely was able to go home. Fortunately she bought a house near her employer. She has medical appointments and this is kind of appointment she cannot miss but she may not be able to get there and if she can there is no guarantee doctor will be available. Be careful shoveling snow. You can hurt yourself. I tore scapula in each shoulder during one storm here. 1 Quote
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 https://nypost.com/2022/12/28/video-shows-local-opening-fire-on-looter-in-buffalo-blizzard/ Quote
LabattBlue Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Not sure which was worse…the looters, or the mayor acting like he has never dealt with a snowstorm before. Friggin’ black eye for the city of Buffalo. Quote
muppy Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 My sister in Bergen lost power and it was nasty conditions but they got nowhere near the snow. And Rochester even less. I'm thankful they were spared and it wasn't worse Buffalo in general as well as Our bills players have been through a LOT this season. Unprecedented really. Buffalo has experienced one heckuva 2022. The Tops shooting, snow snow and more snow....saving the very worst loss of life for last..... excuse my french but ***** BYE 2022. I will be so glad to see you go. for real /Vent and yes I will be praying over WNY for all contingencies as will my church moving forward m Quote
Beck Water Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I feel like my back is broken after shoveling out 4ft of heavy ass snow in my driveway It felt like I moved thousands of pounds Monday and Tuesday Quote
Beck Water Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Death toll up to 37 😰 17 found outside 9 no heat in home 4 due to heart attack while shoveling snow 4 found in vehicle 3 due to delayed EMS (I expect this will be found to be higher) It's really heartbreaking that to date, the stories that have been told about many of the "found outside" deaths are people who were safe inside with heat and power, and decided to walk for groceries or supplies and were found outside, frozen. I imagine as things settle we'll find there are many more who would have died but were saved by generous people who opened their homes and helped warm them. Others were people who had legit medical needs, like oxygen - but when I read their stories I kind of *facepalm* because, if you need oxygen and a "storm of the century" is approaching, wouldn't you ask your family to help you get filled oxygen tanks and a battery backup BEFORE the storm arrives, or as the family, wouldn't you move your loved one to stay with you before the storm hits so you can provide needed assistance? It's like yes, during the storm, EMS couldn't help people, but some of the people could have helped themselves before the storm got there. 1 Quote
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