Gugny Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Josh Allen's fumbles (fumbles lost) by season: 2018: 8 (2) 2019: 14 (5) 2020: 9 (6) 2021: 8 (3) 2022: 12 (5) Josh is currently on pace to have 15 regular season fumbles. I know the O Line is trash and I believe that's a huge factor. I don't know what the split is between the strip sacks and the ones that are popped out during a run/scramble. It's great that he's been much better/smarter with his passes and the INTs have cooled significantly. But he needs to protect the ball better in the pocket and whilst running. We can't give teams extra chances on offense in the playoffs. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/fumbles 1Justin Fields 15 1Matt Ryan 15 3Josh Allen 12 4Trevor Lawrence 9 4Jalen Hurts 9 6Marcus Mariota 8 6Kyler Murray 8 8Geno Smith 7 8Aaron Rodgers 7 8Baker Mayfield 7 *** EDIT *** @Beck Water does a great job categorizing Allen's 2022 fumbles on Page 2. Edited December 20, 2022 by Gugny 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Allen almost never fumbles while running anymore. Used to happen regularly, I can't remember the last time he did while out in the open field running. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Allen is so good....he doesn't even need to maintain possession of the football to gain chunks of yards! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Lamar Jackson has 42 fumbles and 15 losses in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Allen almost never fumbles while running anymore. Used to happen regularly, I can't remember the last time he did while out in the open field running. I wish there was a place who splits these out, but I cannot find one. I agree with you .. I feel like the vast majority are strip sacks in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 If you look at most QBs, his fumble numbers are consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Lamar Jackson has 42 fumbles and 15 losses in his career. All at the wrong time! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: If you look at most QBs, his fumble numbers are consistent. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/fumbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 He needed an eye in the back of his head for this last strip sack. Just one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I wish there was a place who splits these out, but I cannot find one. I agree with you .. I feel like the vast majority are strip sacks in the pocket. and fumbled snaps under center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: If you look at most QBs, his fumble numbers are consistent. Yeah but then what are we supposed to complain about? And to Gugny's point, yes it is an issue and something I wish he was better about. But with a guy like Allen, he is going to have TO and sack numbers because he never gives up on a play. We don't have the same level of QB play if he were to just go down every time he was in trouble Edited December 20, 2022 by Captain Hindsight 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Yeah but then what are we supposed to complain about? Josh’s nicknames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, hemma said: He needed an eye in the back of his head for this last strip sack. Just one. He had Beasley wide open short for a likely 10-12 yard gain and first down and tried to hold it for something deeper to develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Yeah but then what are we supposed to complain about? I am failing to find one complaint in my post. Can you please point one, or all, of them out for the class? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I wish there was a place who splits these out, but I cannot find one. I agree with you .. I feel like the vast majority are strip sacks in the pocket. Double-edge sword. Shows he's settling in back there, not nervous in the service. BUT... He's gotta feel the pressure presence. Sometimes that extra millisecond is all he needs. What I am saying, take the good with bad and just eliminate the times it happens at critical jumctures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: I am failing to find one complaint in my post. Can you please point one, or all, of them out for the class? Not directed at you my friend just the state of the board in general My apologies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Double-edge sword. Shows he's settling in back there, not nervous in the service. BUT... He's gotta feel the pressure presence. Sometimes that extra millisecond is all he needs. What I am saying, take the good with bad and just eliminate the times it happens at critical jumctures. Yep. Agreed. This is much more of a concern when we're playing win or go home games against good offenses. And like I said, that O Line isn't doing him any favors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 How many of those are bad snaps or a missed handoff (which gets credited to the QB even if it isn’t their fault necessarily). Morse has been in and out of the lineup all year and it’s messing up the snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I guess we need even more stuff to be “worried, concerned, frightened, about, can we give this endless nonsense a break for like 24 hours, thanks, 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The strip sack last week was not really an avoidable fumble (unless he'd thrown it sooner of course), if a QB gets blasted in the back while getting ready to pass, the ball is coming out. The only near-fumble that concerned me was the play where he ran it for a short gain down near the GL, had the ball in 1 hand, and and swung it around a defender's head to try & avoid the tackle. That's way too high risk, the second he decides to run, that ball needs to be tucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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