New York Giants @ Washington Game Thread

[JGMcD2]

3 minutes ago, balln said:

buddy? they can protect players on PS. or after the elevate him they can also have him active on the roster. i voiced for the latter. they didnt and they lost him. youre displaying .... hatorade 

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/30/23325681/how-it-works-nfl-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-and-more

He was promoted to the active roster… they removed him from the active roster. He was subject to waivers because of that. 
 

It had nothing to do with “foresight in protecting him.” They had already waived him once after the preseason to get him on the practice squad and nobody claimed him… they tried to sneak him through again.
 

It was a calculated risk with a player on the back end of the roster. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by JGMcD2

[balln]

1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said:

He was promoted to the active roster… they removed him from the active roster. He was subject to waivers because of that. 
 

It had nothing to do with “foresight in protecting him” 

yea - you want to argue each word. bro im saying. DONT "remov him from the active roster" 

 

i dont give a rats A$$ however you want to do it

[Ya Digg?]

30 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Was keeping Kumerow really worth losing Hodgins? Our special teams seem just fine without him. Zero chance we ever get him back now.

He didn’t have much value on this team. At best he would be the 5th receiver so there would be a bunch of games where he wouldn’t even dress. Not a huge loss for this team, good for him for catching a couple of touchdowns. Let’s not make it sound like the Bills lost a potential #2 receiver though

[JGMcD2]

Just now, balln said:

yea - you want to argue each word. bro im saying. DONT "remov him from the active roster" 

 

i dont give a rats A$$ however you want to do it

You don’t know what you’re saying. You were talking about protecting him on the practice squad… you quoted an article talking about protecting practice squad players 😂

 

It had nothing to do with “foresight in protecting him.” They had already waived him once after the preseason to get him on the practice squad and nobody claimed him… they tried to sneak him through again.
 

It was a calculated risk with a player on the back end of the roster. 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, balln said:

yea - you want to argue each word. bro im saying. DONT "remov him from the active roster" 

 

i dont give a rats A$$ however you want to do it

They clearly didn’t see it that way. What can you do? When you’ve got a good roster other teams will poach players as the rules allow. 

Looks like Jones was down 

[Mango]

9 minutes ago, balln said:

buddy? they can protect players on PS. or after the elevate him they can also have him active on the roster. i voiced for the latter. they didnt and they lost him. youre displaying .... hatorade 

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/8/30/23325681/how-it-works-nfl-practice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-and-more

You are only allowed three call ups. Hodgins was called up 3 times. At that point he is no longer a practice squad player and cannot be protected. 
 

At that point the Bills can either subject him to waivers or sign him immediately to the 53. If he were to clear waivers I assume he could be protected. But this is still a weird spot for Buffalo because another call up would be his 4th one of the season, which means the only way he could get called up would be to sign him to the 53. 
 

It didn’t make sense to submit Hodgins to waivers and protect him. Even putting him on the PS seemed odd because Davis was still nursing a foot/ankle issue and we only had 3 or 4 healthy WR. 
 

We have signed two guys off of their couches, we weren’t healthy and didn’t have numbers at WR. It didn’t make any sense at the time only to be made worse by a Kumerow injury the very next week. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Mango

[balln]

ron. he was down.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

There is a guy named James Smith-Williams?

 

wow. 

[Mango]

With this new QB sneak I’m curious if we start to see something like a tight end take the snap with a huge fullback plow him from behind. 

[balln]

4 minutes ago, Mango said:

You are only allowed three call ups. Hodgins was called up 3 times. At that point he is no longer a practice squad player and cannot be protected. 
 

At that point the Bills can either subject him to waivers or sign him immediately to the 53. If he were to clear waivers I assume he could be protected. But this is still a weird spot for Buffalo because another call up would be his 4th one of the season, which means the only way he could get called up would be to sign him to the 53. 
 

It didn’t make sense to submit Hodgins to waivers and protect him. Even putting him on the PS seemed odd because Davis was still nursing a foot/ankle issue and we only had 3 or 4 healthy WR. 
 

We have signed two guys off of their couches, we weren’t healthy and didn’t have numbers at WR. It didn’t make any sense at the time only to be made worse by a Kumerow injury the very next week. 

right - my whole thrust of the argument is. Id rather see hodgins on our team than keep scrub ST that still stink and WILLL NEVER play (taiwan jones will never play RB). and i sort of feel john brown signing is a joke. we got caught with our pants down at WR. Now especially bc were dropping everything and i just see our recievers have a really hard time making contested catches. it seems weird to not prioritize a guy thats big , makes contested catches/ doesnt drop anything. I mean WE drafted him

 

im done talking about this

Edited December 19, 2022 by balln

[ColoradoBills]

41 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Was keeping Kumerow really worth losing Hodgins? Our special teams seem just fine without him. Zero chance we ever get him back now.

 

I'm not a Kumerow hater but I believed (and still do believe) Hodgins had a lot more upside.  Too much ST worth for Kumerow.

 

39 minutes ago, Mango said:

He’s on a 2 year deal for NYG. 

 

Giants took over that contract from the Bills.  The 2-year deal is a normal reserve/futures contract that he signed in Jan of this year.

I'm not sure if that is correct in Spotrac since he was cut in September and then signed to the PS.

[balln]

8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I'm not a Kumerow hater but I believed (and still do believe) Hodgins had a lot more upside.  Too much ST worth for Kumerow.

 

 

Giants took over that contract from the Bills.  The 2-year deal is a normal reserve/futures contract that he signed in Jan of this year.

I'm not sure if that is correct in Spotrac since he was cut in September and then signed to the PS.

be careful JGMcD2 may fight you over your exact knowledge

[Beck Water]

53 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

He was signed off our practice squad.

 

Negative, he was cut from the 53 man roster and had to go through waivers.  Giants claimed him off waivers

[balln]

im finding myself not minding CC this game bc theres no rodgers, brady, mahommes or new england angle for him to gurgle on

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, balln said:

be careful JGMcD2 may fight you over your exact knowledge

 

He @JGMcD2was correct in what went on with Hodgins and his status when the Bills let him go.

 

I didn't want to get involved in your guy's conversation but now that you have, I will let you know something about the PS rules.

While it's true that some PS players can be protected, it's not in the way a lot of fans think.

 

Every week, every PS player can be claimed by any team (as long as that team is not playing the team of the player).

Even "protected players" that are designated could have been claimed the day before they are protected.

 

Like I've stated before, I wish Hodgins was kept.  Heck, I thought he should have made the 53 right out of camp.

[balln]

hodgins w a solid block

kinda glad daboll gone

[balln]

wow

[biLLyBuFFs]

Great catch

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

47 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Man, Dotson is a really good looking rookie WR...  i didn't pay much attention to him at Penn St.  I should have.

Just made an insane catch. 
 

Heinicke has gotta be one of my fav non Bills. He’s like the Fred Jackson of quarterbacks. They keep bringing in guys to take his place 

[TBBills Fan]

Dabs and co are gonna have a weird decision to make with their QB  Limited success, you could do better but you could also do worse. 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by TBBills Fan