Devin Singletary not scoring a TD with 34 seconds left

[slipkid]

19 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

I agree with your sentiment, but I was initially worried about the conditions. In light of what @PromoTheRobot said about how it was not icy, I now think McD made the right call,

Ultimately, I trust the snap on the field goal more than from Van Rotten. It’s worth noting that the kneel down came after a shotgun snap, not under center—gave Josh more time to recover a bad snap.

[Low Positive]

I think a lot of people complaining about this had financial reasons to want that TD.

[Roundybout]

Going down and taking the field goal was the best guarantee of a win. By giving them the ball back, you risk a loss. 

[chongli]

5 minutes ago, BCAS Baritone said:

Actually I was a little critical of the swiping they were doing.  The place to focus was the kicker's plant foot and where he was standing before the kick - and while the plant area was clear, he was still standing in snow at the snap.

 

Something they can coach up for future home games.

 

Certainly the effort was highly praiseworthy.

 

Agree 100%! I said the same thing on page 2. You clear the kicker's entire run path, plus an extra foot around that. (And the holder's area too if there is time for that.)

Edited December 18, 2022 by chongli

[Freddie's Dead]

I gave Motor a game ball just because of this play.  Downing himself before scoring a TD is 4D chess!

[frostbitmic]

21 minutes ago, nkreed said:

I'm not sure, but I think he was bordering on the edge of a penalty, as he was pulled by another lineman back to the huddle. Then after he went back again! 🤣😂🤣

Wait a minute, you saw it? I have watched the replay tons of times and still can't find the ball! I had no clue until I saw the officials put up their arms.

I could only tell it went through by the reaction of the fans.

 

 

[Bob Jones]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

Why? The Dolphins had one timeout left and the Bills had another play to run, so everyone knew they would be able to run the clock out before trying the FG. It didn’t matter at all.

 

The most obvious answer is that they wouldn't be forced to kick the FG on 4th down. Get the 1st down, run a play (same play they ran on 3rd down), then stop the clock with the TO at about 10 seconds and kick the FG. That way, if there was a bad snap, a bad handle by Martin, or a slip/bad approach by Bass, they'd have a second chance at the FG. The latter would leave about 4-5 seconds (if the first FG try is good) on the clock. Then squib the kickoff and it's over.

[Fetou]

The Dolphins were trying to let him score. That really says it all in terms of which way gives them a better chance to win 

[Saxum]

When I saw the play I spoke aloud "smart play".  

Players often play for stats and acclamations and this is contrary to instincts.

 

There will be very few highlights of this play and he is in last year of contract. 

Hopefully whatever team considering signing him will be cognizant of the situation in this game. 

[OldTimer1960]

That has worked 2x this year, but what it says to me is that the staff doesn’t trust the defense to be able to hold a lead for 34 seconds.  That’s a pretty harsh indictment of the defense without Miller.

[KHAN]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

 Apparently, Mark Sanchez was critical of Motor's decision to kneel at the four yard line.

Here's the thing.

 

At first  he was critical of the Bills for not taking the points. Called it "arrogant".

 

Then he criticized Motor for not at least getting the first down. He was corrected by the play by play guy that with only one time out left for Miami that point was totally wrong.

 

He then (and this is the best part) said that it would been better for Miami to pull Motor in to the end zone so they would at least have some time left to try to score. This totally contradicts his first criticism of the Bills.  That's a lot of fail in a very short period of time.

 

 

Survey Says: Mr. Butt Fumble sucks at QB and announcing.

[vincec]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It wasn't icy. It was fresh snow that was swept away to kick a chip spot. It was how you do it.

 

 

 

The way receivers were sliding around at the end, and everyone after the game, I'd say the footing was not ideal. I could totally see Bass slipping or the wet ball going through the holders hands or something. It's probably a 50-50 call, IMO. But with either choice, the Bills probably have a 95% chance to win so you can't really criticize and it would take a major gaffe to lose.

[KHAN]

2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

That has worked 2x this year, but what it says to me is that the staff doesn’t trust the defense to be able to hold a lead for 34 seconds.  That’s a pretty harsh indictment of the defense without Miller.

LOL

 

Giving a team no time is always > giving a team time.

[LABILLBACKER]

I thought it was brilliant.  Run the clock down to :02 and let our reliable kicker make a very short 22 yarder. There wasn't that much snow on the field. The way our defense was playing last night, the kickoff would've been returned to the 40 and Hill or Waddle would've just burned someone on a deep play. Look how far KC traveled in :13.  Bravo Motor

[stevestojan]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It wasn't icy. It was fresh snow that was swept away to kick a chip spot. It was how you do it.

 

 

 

It seemed pretty slick when Bass dove and slid for about 8 yards. 

[OldTimer1960]

11 minutes ago, KHAN said:

LOL

 

Giving a team no time is always > giving a team time.

You understand that a fg -even that short - isn’t a 100%.  Bad snaps, kicker slipping or a fg block can all happen.  Imagine how dumb that looks if any of those things had occurred.  Answering that “they made the kick” misses the point.  
 

If you have a good playoff caliber defense, you should not be afraid of defending with a 7 point lead for 34 seconds - especially when the opponent has no timeouts.  Yes, Miami has some outstanding and fast WRs, but come on…

Edited December 18, 2022 by OldTimer1960

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

Regardless of your thoughts whether he should have scored the TD, it was an absolutely bonehead play to go down short of the first. 

 

It was a 2nd down run and there were 20 something seconds left on the clock.  The first down didn't really matter there.

 

Bass is pretty money.  There's no reason he shouldn't make that short of a kick unless it's blocked.  

[stevestojan]

26 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I think a lot of people complaining about this had financial reasons to want that TD.

Nope. I just thought back to all the weird ways we’ve lost games and thought of a fumble, a missed kicked, or my mind went to the worst - a blocked kick returned for a score to end it. 
 

Not scoring a gimme TD with 30 seconds left in the snow concerns me that those brutal beats are also in McDs head - he just imagined an even worse scenario: we score to go up 7 with 30 seconds and the Dolphins score a TD and take it to OT and win. 

In the end, it worked. But having any hesitancy that you’re defense can’t stop a TD from ***** Tua in snow with 30 seconds is a bit concerning. 

 

 

[Spiderweb]

1 hour ago, JTown said:

I don't get it.  Yes it worked in our favor this time however,  with the field conditions deteriorating.   The field goal was NOT a given.   What would we be feeling like today if Bass slipped,  missed or the FG was blocked.  IMO,  I would have liked to see Singletary score and defend the 34 seconds in those weather conditions. 

The point here is clearly being missed. It forced Miami to burn their final time out. Thus allowing Allen to take an knee and run the clock down to 2 seconds before the kick. Fear of "13 secs" rearing it's ugly head may have been in play as well.

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

It worked but I thought it was the wrong play. That decision was all about Tyreek Hill taking up real estate in McD's head. This was not Mahomes in Arrowhead in favorable conditions. It's Tua in Buffalo on snow. If you can't stop that from scoring a TD with less than a minute and no timeouts then we'll you're not a championship team. 

 

Of course it's JMHO, glad it worked out.

Couldn’t disagree more. A championship team doesn’t worry about executing a short field goal. That is expected. Hill is the fastest player on the field, and the conditions would have been more of a factor trying to cover him. He could score from anywhere on the field in just seconds. Choosing to kick the FG over covering Hill was a no- brainer. If they’d kicked off to the Dolphins you would probably have been livid at McD as Hill blazed down the sideline. Easiest decision ever from where they were on the field.