Devin Singletary not scoring a TD with 34 seconds left

[ExiledInIllinois]

17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I'm surprised how much discussion this play has warranted. I can lay out exactly what happens if Singletary runs into the endzone there. The Dolphins get the ball back with 34 seconds left and 1 timeout. On 1st down we drop everyone way back into soft coverage and Tua deliver the ball to one of his speedy weapons who is tackled close to the 50. Dolphins take their last timeout with maybe 27 seconds remaining. They now have a few chances to let Waddle or Hill get past the secondary or take a quick slant to the house. Damar Hamlin is standing deep in the secondary itching to take the worst angle you've ever seen in a football game. I would not be comfortable AT ALL in that scenario.

 

It's that or trust your reliable FG team to kick one that's even closer than an XP as time expires.

 

No brainer decision against this Dolphins team.

Then they go for 2pts. and win! 😆 

 

I am so glad the stadium built on a Native American village site and burial grounds would have no part of this alternate reality scenario. 

 

Devin made the right choice. He didn't need the 1st down. Josh took a knee on next play and moved ball back another 4 yards!

 

Oh... Here it is again:

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

I watched the end 6 times and never had a bad opinion of it, yet here we are, page 16 🤣 

[Devilmann]

To many what ifs for me to continue reading this thread after a page , but here is the bottom line. We won and I don’t give a crap how it happened. We can sit here and play the would have should have could have game all day and nothing is going to change the fact we won. I for one am tired of the damn 13 second memes and 3 or 4 DB’s and safety’s in the backfield getting clowned by one guy on a last second Hail Mary. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

19 hours ago, WhoTom said:

Yeah, I was in the "he should have scored the TD" camp for the reasons you gave. Ideally, you want to leave no time on the clock, but this ain't Mahomes we're dealing with. I doubt Tua could engineer a miraculous TD drive in the snow with 30 seconds and no TOs.

 

 

You haven't paid attention to the dolphins and are overhyping the snow. 

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'm surprised how much discussion this play has warranted. I can lay out exactly what happens if Singletary runs into the endzone there. The Dolphins get the ball back with 34 seconds left and 1 timeout. On 1st down we drop everyone way back into soft coverage and Tua delivers the ball to one of his speedy weapons who is tackled close to the 50. Dolphins take their last timeout with maybe 27 seconds remaining. They now have a few chances to let Waddle or Hill get past the secondary or take a quick slant to the house. Damar Hamlin is standing deep in the secondary itching to take the worst angle you've ever seen in a football game. I would not be comfortable AT ALL in that scenario.

 

It's that or trust your reliable FG team to kick one that's even closer than an XP as time expires.

 

No brainer decision against this Dolphins team.

 

 

Isn't an even a discussion. The people who think otherwise are just objectively wrong.

[ExiledInIllinois]

You know... Lost in all this, even if Bass misses kick... They would have got another chance and closer. Miami was Offside on the winning kick, Bills declined the penalty of course!

 

It would have moved it to 2 yard line, a true PAT:

 

"4th & 4 at MIA 7

(0:00 - 4th) T.Bass 25 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-R.Ferguson, Holder-S.Martin. Penalty on MIA-K.Crossen, Defensive Offside, declined."

[NoSaint]

13 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I respect that for sure. But I'm also sure that I was not the only one nervous about bass slipping or a botched snap. 

but not about a blown coverage or a DB slipping if we give the ball back?

[Not at the table Karlos]

21 hours ago, chongli said:

 

I saw the players clear snow. But I was wondering why Bass didn't point them to the area where he started his run. That is also a very critical area.

 

 

Someone called me Mr. Plow at the game. I knew there was a song but I couldn't remember it. Thank you for posting this. 

[CSBill]

At the time, I was wanting them to get the TD. But this is why . . .

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by CSBill

[muppy]

20 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

It's brilliant, actually.

I agree. The result was also Brilliant. Being in total control of the clock so as to not give your opposition any chance to comeback as opposed to the other was in my mind brilliant. Our kicker is as dialed in and reliable as there is in the NFL. Giving he a chance for a chip shot field goal to end the game once and for all was brilliant.

 

This situation being preplanned for by the coaching staff is the kind of thinking you Want from your head coach. It was the kind of thinking that some people didn't think McDermott was capable of both in terms of time And game management. 

 

If it hadn't have worked well then you go to OT. I liked the call but I also Respected the call if that makes any sense. Kept the end game result in our control to the bitter end. If Motor had scored those last few seconds would have been an eternity . That game was way too close as it was.  WHEW. Im  sooo glad we WON

[Low Positive]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Isn't an even a discussion. The people who think otherwise are just objectively wrong.

Spread on this game was Bills -7. I think that might be driving this discussion more than anything.

[Goin Breakdown]

54 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

but not about a blown coverage or a DB slipping if we give the ball back?

I'm going to be honest. I'm nervous the whole game. Glad we won! Go Bills!!

[pocoboy]

McDermott is behind the times on strategy, and got blasted in the first Miami game for clock management issues.

 

So I think he drilled this particular strategic point into the heads of his players, and honestly, I'm not sure I want a jump ball between Hill/Waddle and this defensive backfield. But it's kind of like McDermott's "see, I know what I'm doing" trick.

 

But yes, taking a touchdown lead with ~ 0:30 to go would seem insurmountable. But then again, 2022 seems to be the Year Of The Bills Defensive Choke Job and finding new ways to screw up endgames.

Edited December 19, 2022 by pocoboy

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 minutes ago, pocoboy said:

McDermott is behind the times on strategy, and got blasted in the first Miami game for clock management issues.

 

So I think he drilled this particular strategic point into the heads of his players, and honestly, I'm not sure I want a jump ball between Hill/Waddle and this defensive backfield. But it's kind of like McDermott's "see, I know what I'm doing" trick.

 

But yes, taking a touchdown lead with ~ 0:30 to go would seem insurmountable. But then again, 2022 seems to be the Year Of The Bills Defensive Choke Job and finding new ways to screw up endgames.

11-3. ABJECT defensive failure.

 

[jletha]

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'm surprised how much discussion this play has warranted. I can lay out exactly what happens if Singletary runs into the endzone there. The Dolphins get the ball back with 34 seconds left and 1 timeout. On 1st down we drop everyone way back into soft coverage and Tua delivers the ball to one of his speedy weapons who is tackled close to the 50. Dolphins take their last timeout with maybe 27 seconds remaining. They now have a few chances to let Waddle or Hill get past the secondary or take a quick slant to the house. Damar Hamlin is standing deep in the secondary itching to take the worst angle you've ever seen in a football game. I would not be comfortable AT ALL in that scenario.

 

It's that or trust your reliable FG team to kick one that's even closer than an XP as time expires.

 

No brainer decision against this Dolphins team.

 

Seriously. In both instances, whether he goes down or not, something flukey has to happen in order to lose. Either Bass misses the chipshot because of the conditions or Miami goes down the field and scores with 30s and a TO. Of those two options which one is more flukey? IMO, I want to be in control of the situation and not give the ball back at all. Miami cant score without the ball, plain and simple. So dont give them the ball and you have to trust your players to make the play. I, and obvi McD, trust Bass to make that kick every time.

[TH3]

7 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

This right here ^^*
McDermott canceled Hill/waddles abilities by taking them both out of the equation, and won the game by doing so. What’s not to like??

Yes also …How about this..Miami WANTED THE BILLS TO SCORE SO THEY COULD GET THE BALL BACK….Mcd nixed this

[Lane Meyer K12]

Very smart play. Team over self, play. It gave the dolphins no shot (0%) chance of having a fluke play for the win. 

[Magox]

22 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Regardless of your thoughts whether he should have scored the TD, it was an absolutely bonehead play to go down short of the first. 

This doesn't make any sense.

 

The Bills were as far down as they needed to be to get a close FG, there were no timeouts left for Miami, the kick was going to happen with no time left either way.

[SoCal Deek]

Didn’t read through all of these pages but if you want to know if it was ‘smart’ just look at it this way….the Dolphins could’ve tried to let the Bills score. They didn’t. Odd. 

[ytownblofan]

Also, for those saying to take the points and score the TD... the PAT would have been a longer attempt and in those conditions, it would have been much less of a sure thing. With the FG attempt they were closer, and plays had been run in that area that had helped clear some of the snow.