Devin Singletary not scoring a TD with 34 seconds left

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

11 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

And if Tua hits a crosser to Tyreek that goes the distance and Tyreek taunts our slow DBs for a TD, everyone would go back to bitching about taking the TD.

 

I guess conversely you could argue, if the FG is blocked or missed, should have scored the TD.  
 

My guess is the FG was probably the highest percentage play to coincide with the game clock.

I feel like their was a much higher percentage of missing the FG than Miami somehow marching down the field and scoring in such a short amount of time. Then again I think McDermott didn’t want another 13 seconds (sorry) on his hands. In hindsight it was the right move. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Must be the Buffalo in me but the conditions weren’t that bad. Some flurries but the wind wasn’t bad. That’s easy money.

[Buffalo03]

12 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

It worked but I thought it was the wrong play. That decision was all about Tyreek Hill taking up real estate in McD's head. This was not Mahomes in Arrowhead in favorable conditions. It's Tua in Buffalo on snow. If you can't stop that from scoring a TD with less than a minute and no timeouts then we'll you're not a championship team. 

 

Of course it's JMHO, glad it worked out.

What's so wrong about it? You realize it was snowing, right? And if one DB slips and falls Tyreek or Waddel could go the distance, right? Going down by Singletary was the right move. If McDermott instructed him to do it, it was also the right move

[Trock]

After 13 seconds!!! Some of you never learn.  I’m happy our coaches finally saw the light. 

[Wyobills89]

I'm Def in the camp that it was the right decision. Worst case scenario bass misses with no time left and we head to OT. I guess maybe a block or something but I still rather chance the fg, if we had Miller and hyde maybe it's a little different. Give me the chip shot with no time left 99.9% of the time though.

[BringBackFergy]

Maybe y’all should admit it! You had Singletary on your Fantasy team and needed 6 pts. So sorry. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Wrong. Didn't need first down. He ran on 2nd. Josh took a knee on 3rd. There was only two plays left. They were gonna kick with 2 seconds left anyway. No play was coming after that. 

 

Come on people... Trust the Process! 😏 

Edited December 19, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[uninja]

This was 100% the right play call to go down, burn the clock and kick a chip shot field goal with a kicker who is practically automatic. You’re not playing the other team you’re playing the clock and playing keep away. A win is a win, doesn’t matter if it’s by 1 or 100. 
 

I’ve watched the ***** Pats do this kind of ***** for decades and just grind out gritty wins and I’m glad we’re doing it as well. No one cares about style points. Just win baby. 

[chongli]

35 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Agree.  I can't believe he made it as far as he did, he really doesn't seem to understand the game. 

 

It was the right call. 

 

I believe it was Maurice Jones drew back in the day that did this as well, upsetting fantasy owners.  

 

Great end of game management from the coaches to the players.  

 

Jacobi Brissett today...the opposite of what Singletary dis

 

10 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Sanchez is stupid. He has no business calling games. 

 

Another stupid Sanchez gaffe:

 

But some fans disagree:

 

 

 

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

I personally thought it was brilliant of him to go down.  The whole drive was masterfully called and executed.  When we got the ball with just under 6 minutes on the clock, the best possible outcome was to possess 

the ball for the rest of the game and score on the final play and that’s exactly what happened.  It was reminiscent of the Ravens game.  Motor going down made them use their last time out and gave us 1 play to maximize Bass’s comfort with the kick, putting the ball on his preferred hash.

 

And Bass has missed what, one of like his last 120 extra point tries?  
 

it was without question the right thing to do.

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

Full disclosure.   I’ve not coached an NFL team and I’ve not run the numbers, but:

 

Seems to me odds of taking the TD and allowing 34 seconds and winning are greater than running out the clock and kicking the FG.  Assumption:  No team misses an xtra point if they get a TD.  Situation becomes Bills up by seven.

 

Miami has to score a TD in 34 seconds and then beat us in OT.  I think this is less likely than a FG on that turf (cleared or not) with that makeshift OL.

 

One poster has Hill living rent free in McDermott’s mind.  There may be something to this.

There me no chance that is better odds than what the bills did

 

the bills executed it perfectly 

[Billsturfwars]

Are people still drunk 24 hours later after the game? 100% correct move, and I applaud Singletary for not going for stats, but being aware of the situation. 99% sure he was told in the huddle "do not score, get closer." literally the next play Allen kneels down further away, to ensure it's centered.

 

A lot of posters seem to misunderstand "Risk", as well as their memory of Down/Time Remaining, and Time outs.

 

The run was on 2nd Down, Time remaining was roughly 37 seconds. Both the Bills and Dolphins had (1) TO Each. First down did not matter due to the time remaining, and timeouts had by the Dolphins.

 

Risk is how many things could go wrong.

 

Bills get the TD

• Bass misses XP (higher risk than the walk off FG attempt with 0:02 on the clock)
  • If he missed, the Bills are up 6
• Miami now has, 1 timeout, ~35 seconds on the clock
• Bills have to kickoff, Risk of return for TD
• Botched kick, Dolphins get ball with great field position
• CB falls, Hill or Waddle run for 75+ Score
• They dink and dunk going out of bounds down the field, and above situation can still occur (they score)
• If Bass missed XP, and Dolphins score + get XP, Bills Lose
• Dolphins score, go for (2), Bills Lose
• Dolphins score, get XP, go to OT

Possible Risk (at minimum 6 things can go wrong)

 

Bills do the Textbook move, and kick the walk off FG

• Bass misses we go to OT

Possible risk (at minimum (1) thing can go wrong)

 

Coach McD and Singletary in a few moment's time, understood the correct move and executed perfectly.

[Rubes]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

Full disclosure.   I’ve not coached an NFL team and I’ve not run the numbers, but:

 

Seems to me odds of taking the TD and allowing 34 seconds and winning are greater than running out the clock and kicking the FG.  Assumption:  No team misses an xtra point if they get a TD.  Situation becomes Bills up by seven.

 

Miami has to score a TD in 34 seconds and then beat us in OT.  I think this is less likely than a FG on that turf (cleared or not) with that makeshift OL.

 

One poster has Hill living rent free in McDermott’s mind.  There may be something to this.

Well, considering it was a 25-yard FG attempt and an extra point is from 33-yards away, sounds to me like you also have to assume the FG attempt would be automatic. Thus, the odds of running out the clock and kicking the FG should be better.

 

 

[boyst]

He is one of the best examples of buy in when it is concerned with the whole "process" mantra. 

 

It will be hard for me to believe there is a process we are fed when Edmunds, Singleterry, and Poyer don't return. Morse is also a concern.

[John from Riverside]

I think the bills just wanted to control their own destiny in that situation. If you score, you’re giving the opposing team the opportunity to go down and score a touchdown and a two point conversion

 

in my opinion, it was the right call

[Norcalbillsfan]

14 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I was yelling "go down". Did not want to give dolphins a chance to throw deep which they've been very successful with. 

Exactly, the dolphins have maybe the most dangerous WR duo in the NFL and Tua has been great with his hail Mary type throws this year. It was icy but not windy, trusting bass was the right choice. Of course Singletary getting the first would have been the ideal situation, it was still a smart move by Singletary.

[ExiledInIllinois]

You know why it was the right thing to do?  Because Miami was conceding the TD.

 

Never give your opponent what they want... You'll play into their hands

 

/EndOfDiscussion

 

"McDermott said it was smart of Singletary to recognize that if he didn’t score a touchdown, the Dolphins would have to use their final timeout..."

Edited December 19, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[Neo]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

Well, considering it was a 25-yard FG attempt and an extra point is from 33-yards away, sounds to me like you also have to assume the FG attempt would be automatic. Thus, the odds of running out the clock and kicking the FG should be better.

 

 

Well, no.   The risk of xp miss assumption, more eloquently said by me, would be the same for the Bills or Dolphins.   The Bills would have six or seven on the board, and the Dolphins would respond with six or seven.   My assumption is that the xp result is the same for both teams.  I wrote “assumed both make.”   Thirty four seconds to match a TD, same xp result, and then OT.

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

What's so wrong about it? You realize it was snowing, right? And if one DB slips and falls Tyreek or Waddel could go the distance, right? Going down by Singletary was the right move. If McDermott instructed him to do it, it was also the right move

This right here ^^*
McDermott canceled Hill/waddles abilities by taking them both out of the equation, and won the game by doing so. What’s not to like??

[HappyDays]

I'm surprised how much discussion this play has warranted. I can lay out exactly what happens if Singletary runs into the endzone there. The Dolphins get the ball back with 34 seconds left and 1 timeout. On 1st down we drop everyone way back into soft coverage and Tua delivers the ball to one of his speedy weapons who is tackled close to the 50. Dolphins take their last timeout with maybe 27 seconds remaining. They now have a few chances to let Waddle or Hill get past the secondary or take a quick slant to the house. Damar Hamlin is standing deep in the secondary itching to take the worst angle you've ever seen in a football game. I would not be comfortable AT ALL in that scenario.

 

It's that or trust your reliable FG team to kick one that's even closer than an XP as time expires.

 

No brainer decision against this Dolphins team.

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by HappyDays