Dr. K Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Dude, take your own advice. Maybe you are just closed minded and lack strategic thinking. Don't know. Use your brain, it isn't that hard... The run was on 2nd, Miami used their last TO. Buffalo kneeled on 3rd, took their 2nd TO. You now have 4th Down, in severe weather conditions for the snap, hold, and approach by the kicker. If something goes wrong you have no room for error, game goes to overtime. If you took 1 more step forward and took the free first down, the FG would have been on 2nd down, if something went wrong with the snap, hold, footing of Bass, you could have tucked the ball down, call your final TO, then kick again. Class dismissed. Wrong. The whole point of running the clock down is to leave the Dolphins with NO TIME on the clock, so you don't have to kick off and risk some miracle play. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: I agree this came from the coach , but there’s nothing iffy about it. This isn’t college football either. You expect a routine kick to be made. You run the clock down and win the game; take many variables out of the equation and don’t give MIA an opportunity. Ahh, I think Tony Romo may differ with your opinion on automatic kicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 For anyone who didn't see it or catch it when I said it before McDermott made it sound like they had talked about this prior to the play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: had Sanchez said “brilliant play, the kick will end the game” instead of “omg he didn’t get the first down” the general reaction would been different for many here. True. We would have agreed with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: It was a little "play not to lose". It worked out so I'm ok. My only thing is that it seems like a small example of how the Bills get up and then take their foot off the gas. Playing not to lose? Really? What the Bills did in the final seconds of the game is the very definition of playing to win. 3 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Would have preferred he went down past 1st down (going forward). But yes we saw cleveland lose by NOT doing this and i believe that was 10pt game inside 2mins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: Playing not to lose? Really? What the Bills did in the final seconds of the game is the very definition of playing to win. a lot of guys think it takes heroics and highlights to be doing to confident and correct thing sometimes it’s being smart and well prepared with an attention to detail and not simply being flashy 18 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: For anyone who didn't see it or catch it when I said it before McDermott made it sound like they had talked about this prior to the play. it would be absolutely shocking if they didnt 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: a lot of guys think it takes heroics and highlights to be doing to confident and correct thing sometimes it’s being smart and well prepared with an attention to detail and not simply being flashy it would be absolutely shocking if they didnt Gimme smart, prepared, and attention to detail every time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Maybe this has already been mentioned, but the Dolphins tried to let us score. That proves we made the right decision. The opposing coaching staff wanted the ball back, we didn't let them have it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Maybe this has already been mentioned, but the Dolphins tried to let us score. That proves we made the right decision. The opposing coaching staff wanted the ball back, we didn't let them have it. Did they? They tried to tackle Singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Did they? They tried to tackle Singletary. I thought they had left an open lane for him to run through intentionally, I could be wrong though. He went down on his own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Jerome007 said: I too thought he should have scored, I mean it was a TD and only 34 sec to go. I was also surprised by the following Josh kneeldown instead of another run attempt. You obviously didn’t see the Jets Browns game earlier this year. You never give the opponent the chance to score a tying TD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I thought they had left an open lane for him to run through intentionally, I could be wrong though. He went down on his own. Two Dols defenders brought him down just short of the first down marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Playing not to lose? Really? What the Bills did in the final seconds of the game is the very definition of playing to win. I respect that for sure. But I'm also sure that I was not the only one nervous about bass slipping or a botched snap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 100% the right call. Chip shot FG with one of the best kickers in the league. Motor would have scored with 35 seconds left, which is too much time when Hill and Waddle are on the other side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Two Dols defenders brought him down just short of the first down marker. “Brought him down”?? No- this is incorrect. Rewatch it. Devin dove to the ground, kohou lowered his shoulder but missed him. He may have grazed him. Holland was there, but didn’t touch him. There’s a chance not one dolphin touched him once he broke the line of scrimmage. If Kohou did, touch him, he barely touched him 40 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I thought they had left an open lane for him to run through intentionally, I could be wrong though. He went down on his own. He definitely went down on his own. Idk if they were trying to let us score though. Kohou tried to hit him but whiffed becssue devin was taking a dive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Interesting that there is a lot of debate on this. My friend, who is an unbiased observer (not a Bills fan), thought it was a horrendously stupid move by Singletary. I preferred running the clock out and kicking it, despite the risk, mostly because they were tied at the time (a miss would result in OT rather than a loss) and because it was a chip shot. He strenuously disagreed with me. I think it comes down to how much risk you thought there was with the FG. My friend thought it was extremely risky given the weather conditions; I thought he was overestimating that risk. At the same time, I’m probably overestimating the risk of Miami taking the ball all the way down for a TD with no timeouts. But who could really blame a Bills fan for overestimating the risk of total collapse in the final seconds? But that’s really the main issue: how much risk you thought there was in the FG with the conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Absolutely the right decision. I did not want to sweat out a minute of Hill and Waddle possibly getting behind our secondary and tying/winning (2 point conversion) the game. I'll take a chip shop field goal for the win with Bass any day in nearly all weather conditions. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Moreover, if you’re confident that Bass can hit the extra point for a 7 point lead, then you’re confident he can hit the super short field goal to end it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I thought it was a smart play. It was a boot on the neck kind of play. Miami could only hope the field goal would fail. 16 seconds allowed the MCM. 13 seconds allowed Patrick Mahomes back on the field. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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